REFLECTOR: On factory interaction with builders

Tue Mar 13 21:50:10 CDT 2007

Scott,

Scott, and all,

Scott, thanks for your added comments, and for your help to me this week.
The 2nd rebuild was successful and the gear is completed.      

I will now add "Review the Velocity website at interval" and stick it under
a magnet on my tool box.  It seems to me there might be other ways or
additional avenues to provide notification on known faulty kit parts like
this hydraulic cylinder if for no other reason than to eliminate the need
for builder emails like mine and your need to correct my mistaken notion of
what the Reflector is and is not.  

I could not in good conscience NOT post my experiences.  I trust you can see
that as my cause for writing.  If the factory chooses not participate in The
Reflector, it is their call, but there should be exceptions to the rule, at
least to post the notice to check the website when new info is added.  (Just
my 2 cents).  
Respectfully,
Terry 

-----Original Message-----
From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On
Behalf Of Scott Baker
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 3:16 PM
To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
Subject: REFLECTOR: Nose cyl faulty construction - Safety
BulletinCommunications

Just a short and friendly rebuttal to Terry's note regarding his experiences

and comment regarding factory communications relating to MATCO nose gear 
cylinders.
As you may know, "the factory" does not monitor, contribute, or offer 
comments to the Reflector.  I personally have been a Reflectorite for over 
10-years (prior to joining Velocity, Inc) and enjoy being a member of the 
group, plus being somewhat of a listening post and liason between 
Reflectorites and the company.
For everyone new to the Reflector, there is only _one_ location for Safety 
Bulletins and KPC's (Kit Plans Changes) - and this is the Builder's section 
of the www.velocityaircraft.com web site.  Please make it a habit to check 
the site from time to time to see if there are any new issues or changes 
that affect your aircraft.  If you do not have a password or user ID to 
enter the Construction Manual section of the Builder's page, please 
telephone 772-589-1860 or email me for this information at 
scottb at velocityaircraft.com.

Terry offered an excellent suggestion that information regarding the Safety 
Bulletin involving MATCO nose gear cylinders be included with the MATCO 
hydraulic cylinder rebuild kit.

Many thanks!
Scott B.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Terry Miles" <terrence_miles at hotmail.com>
To: "'Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list'" <reflector at tvbf.org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 1:19 PM
Subject: [SPAM] REFLECTOR: Nose cyl faulty construction

> Hi,
> If we are all in the together, I have something to contribute.
>
> I am only now testing my gear.  The nose retraction cyl leaked and so we
> asked for and received a rebuild kit.
>
> The rebuild was accomplished and it still leaked.  I called the factory
> again and learned only then of an 1/11/07 posting on the factory sight 
> that
> says the cylinder has to be opened up and the plunger placed back into the
> assembly facing opposite from the way it comes to you.  Obviously without
> this bit of news I just built the damn thing as it came apart, and it is a
> bear to get in and out of there.
>
> They are clearly remiss for not using the reflector to announce this 
> stuff.
> Scott B took my suggestion that a copy of the bulletin stuffed into the
> rebuild kits makes a lot of sence.  This has cost me a lot of lost $time$.
> For those of you who bought an RG kit in the last 2 years...save yourself
> some time.  Go the Velo site, builder's section, safety items, copy the 
> nose
> cyl info, and rip into your nose retraction cylinder now and fix it.
>
> Terry
> XLRG-5
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On
> Behalf Of Terry Miles
> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 12:49 PM
> To: 'Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list'
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Cookout at Oshkosh
>
> Lar,
> Great.  Let me get back to you.  I'd ask for the half of the cost in round
> figures since I doubt I could make a nite-by-nite motel out of the place.
> Lots of issues to sort out before this becomes clearly do-able.  Cost to 
> you
> would be about $1200.
> Terry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On
> Behalf Of lawrence epstein
> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 7:26 AM
> To: reflector at tvbf.org
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Cookout at Oshkosh
>
> Terry-
> I am flying out with my brother and will be there Sun-Thurs. I might be
> interested in "renting a couple of beds".
>
> Larry Epstein
>
>
>>From: "Terry Miles" <terrence_miles at hotmail.com>
>>Reply-To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list <reflector at tvbf.org>
>>To: "'Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list'" <reflector at tvbf.org>
>>Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Cookout at Oshkosh
>>Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 06:49:21 -0500
>>
>>More on OSH ideas:
>>
>>Dear all,
>>
>>I live in Chicago.  Andy, if you are driving, you have to pass within
>>minutes of my house...and we have several northern IL and southern Wisc
>>people on the list.
>>
>>I have a friend who goes up each year w/ a big motor home thing...and has 
>>a
>>great time and sleeps better too.  Is anyone interested in splitting the
>>rental of one or more of these babies?  Parked side by side (which means I
>>hear we have to get there early) we will have our camping/dinner area
>>staked
>>out.
>>
>>Terry
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On
>>Behalf Of Andy Millin
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 10:41 AM
>>To: 'Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list'
>>Subject: REFLECTOR: Cookout at Oshkosh
>>
>>Hello All,
>>
>>I know we have a while before Oshkosh, but, I have an idea.  The RV guys 
>>in
>>our chapter go to an RV cookout each year in Camp Scholler.  It isn't
>>formal.  It's just a chance for the builders to get together and enjoy the
>>company.
>>
>>Last year the Velocity dinner/meeting was derailed by the Hilton.  The 
>>date
>>was changed at the last moment by the hotel.  I know Duane wasn't happy.
>>I'm not sure the event was even held.
>>
>>I spoke with Scott Baker this morning.  He liked the idea of a Velocity
>>Cookout in the camp.  They would attend and speak.  If this looks like a
>>go,
>>they might make it the official Velocity dinner/meeting.
>>
>>My idea is simple:  Cookout, brats and burgers.  Not specifically a
>>potluck,
>>but if you want to bring something to pass, please do.  I'll take care of
>>the burgers and brats.  Bring something to drink and a chair or two, if 
>>you
>>have them.
>>
>>Wednesday, July 25th - Start cooking around 5:00 PM -- Camp Scholler - Map
>>of specific location to be published a month or two in advance.
>>
>>All I'm looking for now is the interest level.  Do you think you might
>>come?
>>Anyone who would want to help would also be appreciated.  Reply on the
>>reflector or personally to amillin at sbcglobal.net
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Andy
>>
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