REFLECTOR: 2-pilots; who is PIC?

Richard J. Gentil richard at naples-air-center.com
Thu Jun 14 19:12:58 CDT 2007


The answer is, the person who says before the flight, that they are PIC. 
Also, PIC is the person with their hands on the controls if both pilots 
are rated for the aircraft and it is not decided before the flight departed.

Richard

Scott Baker wrote:
> If two qualified and current pilots are in command seat positions, 
> either one can legally act as PIC - regardless of ratings held.
> A Private pilot may 'think' that a Commercial, ATP, or CFI - because 
> of his/her 'higher' rating - is considered the ultimate PIC on the 
> flight - but this is not the case.
> When two qualified and current pilots share the front seats of a 
> Velocity, it is always a good idea to discuss ahead of time and come 
> to an agreement as to who will act as PIC on the flight.
> A CFI is by all means NOT "all knowing".  In my opinion, experienced 
> Velocity pilots with a Private rating are likely to be better 
> qualified to act as PIC with regards to controlling flight, than a CFI 
> without previous Velocity experience.
> A CFI may log PIC time if they give flight instruction during the 
> flight.  There are situations where both pilots may log PIC time - but 
> only one may act as the legal PIC at any given moment.
> Reminds me of a joke following a flight with two flight instructors in 
> the front seat.  One turns to the other and says, "Nice landing".  The 
> other CFI looks stunned and replies, "I thought you had the controls!"
> Scott B.
> CFI-I
>  
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* John Dibble <mailto:aminetech at bluefrog.com>
>     *To:* Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
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>     *Sent:* Thursday, June 14, 2007 6:02 PM
>     *Subject:* [SPAM] Re: REFLECTOR: First Flight (Jerry Teitsma)
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>     I heard that whenever an instructor is in a plane he is
>     automatically the PIC, even if you are just giving him a demo ride.
>
>     John
>
>     MMurp16900 at aol.com <mailto:MMurp16900 at aol.com> wrote:
>
>>      HI JerryCongratulation on your first flight.I am curious about
>>     the wording of your operation limits.What does it say about phase
>>     one testing? Our letter reads "no person may be carried in this
>>     aircraft unless that person is essential to the purpose of the
>>     flight.Who was PIC?RegardsMack Murphree
>>      
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