REFLECTOR: Ignition Noise

michalk michalk at awpi.com
Mon Jun 11 13:12:50 CDT 2007


It's not a high frequency coupling.

I would guess that your antenna shield is a ground path for your EI.
Are your headset jacks insulated from the instrument panel?  Or, do your 
headset wires share a common ground with your EI?

Ron Brown wrote:
> Actually, I have been chasing a spark noise in my Garmin 430 for a 
> several weeks.  It is only coming in the 430, it goes away when I turn 
> off the Jeff Rose Electroair electronic ignition, it changes frequency 
> with engine RPM, it does not come in to the #2 com which is a lowly 
> Microair 760, it does not make noise if the antenna is disconnected from 
> the 430.  Arrrggghhh!
>  
> I have changed antennas from right to left, used a portable antenna, 
> bought new plugs and plug  wires, connected the 430 to a separate 
> battery, swapped 430's with a friend, removed ground wires, cleaned and 
> retightened them, installed noise filters on the 430 and Electroair, 
> removed and inspected new plugs and new wires.  Next I am going to 
> remove the timing unit from the distributor hole, spin the unit and see 
> if I can hear sparks, then try  replace one high energy coil at a time.   
>  
> We are planning to fly to Colorado next week and I sure would like to 
> NOT hear sparking noises when I am receiving a far away aircraft or ATC.
>  
> Any other suggestions from the collective???
> Ronnie
>  
> 
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* Chuck Jensen <mailto:cjensen at dts9000.com>
>     *To:* Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
>     <mailto:reflector at tvbf.org>
>     *Sent:* Monday, June 11, 2007 1:11 PM
>     *Subject:* Re: REFLECTOR: elevator cuff was Brake authority
> 
>     Ron,
>      
>     Thanks for the cuff description, I can visualize what you were
>     describing but since I don't have any, I was just curious.  I was
>     suffering from cuff-envy until I realized it was fashionable not to
>     have 'em.
>      
>     P.S.  Nice looking paint and trim job on the bird.  Now that its all
>     painted up, I'm surprised you haven't found anything that you want
>     to change!
>      
>     Chuck Jensen
>      
>      -----Original Message-----
>     *From:* reflector-bounces at tvbf.org
>     [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] *On Behalf Of *Ron Brown
>     *Sent:* Monday, June 11, 2007 10:41 AM
>     *To:* Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
>     *Subject:* Re: REFLECTOR: elevator cuff was Brake authority
> 
>     Chuck,
>      
>     Don't have a picture - but I can describe them.  It was a C shaped
>     piece that was installed on the leading edge of the Elevator - which
>     reduces the gap between the back of the canard and the elevator such
>     that when the elevator is down, the gap is reduced from what it
>     would be if the cuff wasn't there.
>      
>     It was installed on the inner half, span wise of the elevator.
>      
>     Ronnie   
> 
>         ----- Original Message -----
>         *From:* Chuck Jensen <mailto:cjensen at dts9000.com>
>         *To:* Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
>         <mailto:reflector at tvbf.org>
>         *Sent:* Monday, June 11, 2007 10:10 AM
>         *Subject:* Re: REFLECTOR: elevator cuff was Brake authority
> 
>         Does anyone have a photo of the "cuffs" that are being
>         discussed.  I'm not sure I've ever seen the cuffs on the Velo. 
>         You're welcome to email directly.
>          
>         Chuck Jensen
>          
>          -----Original Message-----
>         *From:* reflector-bounces at tvbf.org
>         <mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org>
>         [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] *On Behalf Of *Laurence Coen
>         *Sent:* Friday, June 08, 2007 12:39 PM
>         *To:* Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
>         *Subject:* Re: REFLECTOR: elevator cuff was Brake authority
> 
>         Al,
>          
>         The way I understand it, the elevator cuffs were one of three
>         things done to address the deep stall problem.  Your current
>         main wing was redesigned and the canard was shortened.  The
>         cuffs are no longer needed.  They were a modification for
>         existing Velocities at that time.  I received cuffs with my kit
>         but never installed them.  Their purpose is to increase the
>         stall speed of the elevator which would explain your high stall
>         speed.
>          
>         Larry Coen
>         N136LC
> 
>             ----- Original Message -----
>             *From:* Al Gietzen <mailto:ALVentures at cox.net>
>             *To:* 'Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list'
>             <mailto:reflector at tvbf.org>
>             *Sent:* Thursday, June 07, 2007 11:34 AM
>             *Subject:* Re: REFLECTOR: Brake authority
> 
>              
> 
>             I concur with Larry - 10KIAS makes a big difference.
> 
>             My canard stalls at 60KIAS with just me, 65KIAS with
> 
>             two people up front.
> 
>              
> 
>             I still have about half the width of the elevator cuff on
>             the elevators. It gives a very gentle pitch-buck at stall,
>             I’ve never felt a lack of elevator authority; and I never
>             have full aft stick on landing.  However; would removing the
>             rest of the cuff reduce the stall speed?
> 
>              
> 
>             I have my ground idle set to about 500 RPMs (Lyc
> 
>             IO-540 with two mags) which is pretty much as slow as
> 
>             it will run
> 
>              
> 
>             My engine idle is about 850; that’s about 210 rpm on the prop.
> 
>              
> 
>             Al
> 
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