REFLECTOR: [SPAM] 173 Gross Weight-Was Brake authority

Scott Baker sbakr at comcast.net
Thu Jun 7 12:22:31 CDT 2007


The wing area of the V173/LW is the same as the XL; however the spars are 
not as strong.  The Velocity XL wing has more S-glass.
SB

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Ewen" <Jewen at comporium.net>
To: "Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list" <reflector at tvbf.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 8:30 AM
Subject: [SPAM] REFLECTOR: 173 Gross Weight-Was Brake authority


> snip: a 173 Elite RG (with the IO-360) ... which weighs almost as much as 
> an
>> XL.
>
> Hi Tom,
> I presume your comment about weighting as much as an XL was aimed towards
> the gross weight.  I found your comment interesting in that I am building 
> a
> 173 RG, with a 20B rotary engine (3 rotor, that should make an easy 250 
> HP,
> 300 if I got the higher compression rotors, intake porting and induction
> system right.)  I too want a higher gross than the standard specs (nice to
> fill the AC with both fuel and passengers.)  My logic is the 173 has the
> same wing as the XL so it should have the same lift capability as an XL,
> just needs the HP (AC will likely be turned off for takeoff) to keep it
> moving through the air which the rotary should provide.
>
> My question is how much have you upped the gross and what performance have
> you experienced or have you had any negative effects ?
>
> Thanks,
> Joe
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tom Martino" <tmartino at troubleshooter.com>
> To: "Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list" <reflector at tvbf.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 9:56 AM
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Brake authority
>
>
>>I have never had a problem with the Matco w600XTs.  However, I am flying
>> a 173 Elite RG (with the IO-360) ... which weighs almost as much as an
>> XL.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On
>> Behalf Of Mike Dawson
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 7:42 AM
>> To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
>> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Brake authority
>>
>> Thanks for that Dave. It does seem to be the
>> consensus.
>> Mike
>>
>> --- David Bertram <n350tx at tx.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Mike, I was not satisfied with the Matco brakes.
>>> The Cleveland brakes are
>>> definitely superior.
>>> Dave Bertram
>>> 383 chevy flying
>>>
>>> -------Original Message-------
>>>
>>> From: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
>>> Date: 06/05/07 09:09:13
>>> To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
>>> Subject: REFLECTOR: Brake authority
>>>
>>> Scott
>>> My brother and I are slowly building a XLFG. It was
>>> one of the first,1999, consequently we have the W600
>>> matco brakes not even the w600xt's. We have only
>>> taxied with them , with toe brake upgrade, and I
>>> find
>>> them woefully weak. Do you think Velocity would
>>> consider a trade up to the XT's since that is what
>>> they put in the newer models or is my only option
>>> $$$$?
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> --- Scott Baker <sbakr at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Don't forget the weight of the aircraft.
>>> > The XL GTOW is hundreds of pounds more than the SE
>>> > and LW/173, which of
>>> > course affects the stopping power of the brakes.
>>> > SB
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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