REFLECTOR: Oskosh and picnic

David Ullman ullman at robustdecisions.com
Tue Jul 31 23:01:42 CDT 2007


First thanks to Andy and his wife for the cookout.  Great to meet the other
Velociheads.  Oshkosh was sobering for me as I can better visualize all the
work ahead of me and also judge the quality of my work relative to others.
Some folks back home have asked me to share my photos, but have been bored
as they are all details of Velocities.  I learned a lot, especially from the
other velocity owners.  

Dr. David G. Ullman, Phd ME, PE
Robust Decisions Inc.
1655 NW Hillcrest Drive
Corvallis, Oregon 97330
direct 541-754-3609
ullman at robustdecisions.com
www.robustdecisions.com


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Today's Topics:

   1.  Oshkosh Cookout 2007 (Andy Millin)
   2. Re:  Airventure Cup - Landing Gear problem ( a long Saga)
      (Brian Michalk)
   3. Re:  Oshkosh Cookout 2007 (Milehitaz at aol.com)
   4. Re:  Strake construction (John Tvedte)
   5. Re:  Cookout at Oshkosh (John Tvedte)
   6. Re:  Airventure Cup - Landing Gear problem ( a long Saga)
      (Rene Dugas)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 14:50:09 -0400
From: "Andy Millin" <amillin at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: REFLECTOR: Oshkosh Cookout 2007
To: "'Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list'"
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Hey All,

 

I'm still riding the high after the cookout.  Things went better than we
could have hoped for.

 

I have posted some pictures and a thanks.

 

http://www.kal-soft.com/velocity/airventure2007.htm

 

Also, if you haven't already seen the picture, I have a High Speed pass of
Turbo Charlie on my site.  Just click the "Last" button.

 

Cheers!

 

Andy

 

=====================================

 

Andy Millin

amillin at sbcglobal.net

 

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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 16:29:43 -0500
From: Brian Michalk <michalk at awpi.com>
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Airventure Cup - Landing Gear problem ( a long
	Saga)
To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list <reflector at tvbf.org>
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You can come to Austin and break down anytime.

Jack Sheehan wrote:
> I haven't seen a recap of the Airventure Cup but here is some info
> the full results are at:
> http://www.airventure.org/2007/events/avcup_results_2007.pdf
> 


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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 17:56:49 EDT
From: Milehitaz at aol.com
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Oshkosh Cookout 2007
To: reflector at tvbf.org
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Andy,
 
Thank you for the pictures and great captions that allow me to attend such
a 
great gathering vicariously through your efforts!  I have one of those  
jobs/careers that command me being at my place of employment on weekends,  
holidays, summer in general and not out enjoying such a great family
reunion. 
 
It is always good to see the faces I already know, (Hey Mac Murphree, Dave  
Ullman, Scott Swing and some of the faces that belong to the names of so
many 
that I have come to know through this forum. 
 
One day some where in the future....I dream of flying my XL/RG to join up  
and enjoy a family reunion like this...till then, I will continue to enjoy
the  
party this way thanks to efforts like this page Andy posted. 
 
Anyone ever heading to the Mid-Coast of Oregon, you had better let me  know 
your in my area, I have direct connections to great food,  lodging, casino
(if 
gaming is in your world of fun) not to mention World  Class live
entertainment.
 
Again, thank you Andy, all the best everyone,
 
Larry Lambert
Executive Host
Chinook Winds Casino Resort
Lincoln City, OR.
888-244-6665 ext 2067
Slow building a fast build XL/RG   
300 hp Trubo Crossflow Subie.



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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 17:14:24 -0500
From: "John Tvedte" <johnt at comp-sol.com>
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Strake construction
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Doug,
 
If it were me - I'd call up the factory and discuss this with them.
 
John
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Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 17:24:17 -0500
From: "John Tvedte" <johnt at comp-sol.com>
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Cookout at Oshkosh
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Andy - (and everyone that helped!)

Yup - forgot to ask you about the ribs.... :o) 
 
Great burgers - (I heard the brats were great too).
 
Ann and I really appreciated the hospitality - and willingness to help watch
our 2 year old twins - and follow us around while discussing. 
 
John
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 17:42:31 -0500
From: "Rene Dugas" <dugasd at bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Airventure Cup - Landing Gear problem ( a long
	Saga)
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I was likewise the recipient of incredible support and help from our
Velocity "family" so I know what you mean when I had to replace my gear
in Billings Montana.
Glad it went well.
Rene'

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Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 4:33 PM
To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
Subject: REFLECTOR: Airventure Cup - Landing Gear problem ( a long Saga)

I haven't seen a recap of the Airventure Cup but here is some info
the full results are at:
http://www.airventure.org/2007/events/avcup_results_2007.pdf

We had 6 velocities entered this was the results
Pilot			Type		Average speed (MPH)

Pat & Dennis Shea	XL-RG 		239.14
Rich & Dad Guerra	XL-RG		212.69
Ken Mishler		SUV-FG	198.48
Scott Jones &
Joe Schifrei		173RG		205.12 ( rotary engine)
Craig Woolson&
John School		XL-FG		DNF
Jack Sheehan		XL-RG		DNS

The times are all good and certainly stand up to our advertised speeds.
The fastest airplane was a Nemisis XT at 337.46 Mph.
We all had a great time I think. We even had a Velocity table at the
dinner before the race which was at the engineer club in Dayton.
I think founded in part by Orville and Wilbur.
I don't know what happened to Craig ( DNF- Did Not Finish) but he had
a full airplane. Both he and Johns wife made the trip from California.
They may have had a pit stop or a lunch break I on the other hand had
a DNS- Did Not Start. Upon arriving at Dayton -Wright Brother airport.
After an uneventful landing I was looking at the airplane and found a
crack
in the right landing gear strut. The torsional wrap was seperated.
Probably
has an internal crack which finally slit the wrap. The crack probably
caused
by some other pilot flying the airplane ( oh yeah I am the only pilot 
that has flown it )
Could not have been pilot technique.
But not to worry I did not get to Oshkosh but had a great time in
Dayton.
I was promptly rescued by Bill Stockman who has a Velocity Elite LW
based
a few miles from the airport I was at. Bill was at the race start 
just hanging out
and took me home and gave me a bed room for the week. He and his wife
Terry
were great. Annother pilot who is a county sheriff lent me a car. Life
is good!
Scott Baker answered the phone on saturday and said he could get me new
parts
by Wednesday. The parts arrived Tuesday morning. The FBO that sponsors
the
start of the race ( Commander Aero) put me in the hangar, provided 
jacks and tools.
Whow what a good bunch of people. Bill had a couple of parties at his 
house while
I was there and I met great folks. The Sheriff, Mike Nolan fllys a 
C-310 and his wife
is opening a wine store in Miamisburg so we had a night of partying
there.
For having a broken airplane I was sure having a good time. If I was 
home I would not
get to go to the airport 5 days in a row. It was just like building
again.
I can't say enough for having the Velocity family. Scott Swing was on 
the phone helping
fit the new gear. The new builders manual on line was a great help. 
Much better than
my old circa 1998 manual and I could use it in the hangar on line.
Scott Baker after shipping early went to the data base and found that 
Brett Ferrel lived
about 20 miles away he called Brett to arrange for epoxy and glass 
etc if I needed it.
Brett was in Oshkosh (go figure) but he called me and arranged for me 
to go to his
hangar ( airport would open it) and get what I want He also offered 
his house and his car
for use if I needed one. This was a great experience. I can not tell 
you how important it
is to have great factory support. If you guys are buying anything for 
your airplane
you should shop at Velocity first. On many items they will actualy 
have a better price
than Aircraft Spruce. On large items they buy at OEM prices and you can
not.
The bottom line is we need the factory supply shop to be successful 
for all the reasons.
I can not say Thanks enough to all who helped. It was such a good time I
am
thinking of flying to a new neighborhood and breaking down again. 
Texas looks good
maybe the west coast.
At the race I met Paul who just a few weeks ago lost his prop and 
also recieved some
great support from this family.

Thanks
Jack
N55XL
Race 55


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