REFLECTOR: Subject changed to switch guards

Brainard, Jerry Jerry.Brainard at anthem.com
Mon Jul 16 09:33:21 CDT 2007


 
Another place to check is our old friend the junk yard.  If you can find
a MINI there, the center switch panel is toggles with guards.  Don't
know anything about the switches, the I am sure the guards will work.

- jerry

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From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On
Behalf Of Christopher Barber
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 10:20 AM
To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Reflector Digest, Vol 38, Issue 63

Only 2.5 years as a cop.  Before that I was a professional student/ and
then
a lawyer for ten years in private/solo Estate Planning  practice.   But
this
cop thing is waaaay fun.  I still practice some law, but the cop things
is something I have always wanted to do and I figured if I didn't do it
now (in my mid 40's, I never would).  My undergrad degree is in Criminal
Justice, but the year I graduated the City of Houston started a hire
freeze which lasted three years....so I continued in grad and then law
school.  At the time I wanted to work for the Houston Police Department,
now, I am thrilled to be working in the City of Bellaire (a city
completely surrounded by Houston, twice the fun, half the PITA).

I am leaning towards some sort of guard since, for some reason I really
like toggle switches.  But the investigation of majoring in minor
things, continues <g>

All the best,

Chris

Christopher Barber
Attorney and Counselor at Law
5110 Bissonnet, No 418
Bellaire, Texas 77401

Serving the Needs of Senior Texans

281-464-LAWS (5297)
281-754-4168 Fax
www.TexasAttorney.net

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From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org]On
Behalf Of Matt Bucko
Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 9:49 PM
To: reflector at tvbf.org
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Reflector Digest, Vol 38, Issue 63



Chris, I would use either good rockers, not toggels, or go with the
switches with the guards.  The rockers are low profile and take a
deliberate push to activate.  Toggels are just too easy to move by
accident. Guarded switches just look cool!  My opinion.
By the way, how long have you been on the Job? I retired from
Scottsdale, AZ after 23 years.
Matt
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 19:23:36 -0600
From: Scott Derrick <scott at tnstaafl.net>
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: pitch Trim
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Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 20:32:23 -0500
From: "Christopher Barber" <CBarber at TexasAttorney.net>
Subject: REFLECTOR: Switch guards, switch locks, locking switches??
To: "Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list" <reflector at tvbf.org>,
	"Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary at lancaironline.net>
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As most of y'all may know, my project is an all electric bird (Velocity
SE) with a rotary engine.  Since if I loose power things get quite I am
using Bob Knuckls' duel alternator/duel battery set up.  What I am
curious about is the switches in the cabin.  Currently I have all the
switches up high on the panel a bit right of center towards the co-pilot
position.  I hope to not have a passanger who would inadvertanlty flip a
switch down and off, HOWEVER, you never know what may get tangled or a
stray move may flip a switch. If my coil switch or primary injectors get
switched off I will start sweating.  Also, I don't really mind the
switches where they are, but I do have a couple of other places I would
like them, but I placed them here as to minimize being bumped.

My question is what other options do I have to either guard against
accidental deactivation.   I have purchased a couple of aviation locking
toggles from ebay, but they are kinda small and may not be up for the
task (but at $13.00 for twoI couldn't go too wrong...they may work for
my coil switch and primary fuel).  The regular priced DPDT (for my
contactors and
injectors) seem to start at close to $60.00 a piece...a bit much for my
police salary if other options will surfice.

I have also considered installing some of the switch guards you see in
old nuclear missle bunker movies that they would open to expose the
firing buttons for the big ol' missles.  I considered installing them
upside down (which is really easy) so that they are on when the cover is
closed thus making the switch impossible to turn off by mistake. This
seems really fool proof, however, the guards, while cheap, are pretty
big and do not look all that, well, elligant.

 Also, I was watching the Astronaut Farmer last night on PPV and saw the
little hard wire loops that where installed next to the switches on each
side of the individual switches in his space capsule and this reminded
me of the ones NASA used to use....maybe still do.  Donno.  These seem
to be just half circles that make grabbing the switch very deliberate
and minimizes potential knocks.  Finally, it seems as if I have seen
bars held in by springs that lay across a series of switches to keep
them in place.

What say ye?  Insight?  Wisdom? Warnings? Observations?  WAG's?

Thanks.

All the best,

Chris Barber
Houston

crossed posted on Reflector, FlyRotary, Aeroelectric Connection email
list & Canard Aviation forum
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 19:26:44 -0600
From: Scott Derrick <scott at tnstaafl.net>
Subject: REFLECTOR: Pressure testing oil cooling system
To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list <reflector at tvbf.org>
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I'm pressure testing my new oil lines and cooling system(two coolers).

I ran it up to 90 psi a couple of hours ago to help chase down any
leaks.   A friend of mine suggested 150 PSI  as a good final test
pressure.   Does that sound about right?

Scott



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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 23:01:31 -0500
From: "Bob Jackson" <bobj at computer.org>
Subject: REFLECTOR:   Adjustable Seat Back Hinges
To: "'Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list'"
	<reflector at tvbf.org>
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I recently bought the new adjustable seat back hinges from Velocity, but
have had difficulty getting them installed in a way that makes them
operate smoothly or freely.  Understanding that they are designed not to
mount directly against the seat bottom and back pans (but instead with
the seat fabric and a little bit of foam trapped in between), we have
tried using shims to simulate the thickness of the fabric and foam.  But
even so, we have still been unable to install them so that they operate
smoothly and freely or to allow the front seat backs to be easily folded
down nearly on top of the seat bottoms for easy ingress to the rear
seats and for the easy storage of bags behind the rear seats.



The basic problem seem to be the fact that the lower part of the seat
backs, where the hinges attach to the embedded hardpoints, are not
parallel which angles the two hinge axes and prevents them from being
co-linear, as shown in the photo below:







The angling also causes the seat tilt rod to bend and not operate
smoothly.
The adjustable seat hinges seem like a good idea, but we have been
unable to install them properly.



The question is whether or not someone on the Reflector has been able to
successfully shim the hinges to allow the seat back to move smoothly and
easily through it's full range of tilt forward motion, and if so, how
they did it.



Any ideas or suggestions from people who have made them work would be
appreciated,



Thanks,

Bob Jackson



XLRG

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