REFLECTOR: Gear down to land.
Tom Martino
tmartino at troubleshooter.com
Sun Aug 26 10:05:33 CDT 2007
Why do many of you ignore the real possibility (as evidenced in past gear
down landings) that the gear can also ³dig in² and not shear off ...and
cause the plane to spin or cart wheel or flip ... Or suddenly stop. The
results can be deadly.
Tom
On 8/26/07 8:54 AM, "Terry Miles" <terrence_miles at hotmail.com> wrote:
> I concur with Dave¹s thoughts on this. This forum is a good information
> trading vehicle. I soloed in 1967. Since 1968 I flew full time for a living,
> less a 3 year furlough. I have never heard anyone suggest gear up landings.
> Since most of us are used to a final descent to touch down w/ the ability to
> add power, losing that ability will get you slow unless you are exceptional
> skilled. There will be an intuitive tendency not to continue descent if the
> view out the front window is not friendly. That¹s why you often read of
> people stall out or spin in on engine-out landings which might otherwise have
> been less damaging to spinal cord or head injury. The gear legs will absorb
> down vector and forward vector energy. And if they shred and take out the
> whole gear box structure, be thankful. That is not to negate some of what Tom
> is suggesting. tip: Given the change to land in a corn field with 6 foot
> tall plants or in a bean field with 2 foot tall plants, which would you choose
> and why.
> The August issue of AOPA carries a very good article about preparing yourself
> for post lift-off engine failure.
> Terry
>
>
> From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On Behalf
> Of David Bertram
> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 3:45 PM
> To: reflector at tvbf.org
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: INCIDENT PHOTO
>
>
> I am glad things worked out for you. However two years ago I had an engine
> failure and landed in a plowed field that was rutted and rough. I put my gear
> down and the only thing damaged was my gear doors. I have been flying since
> 1960 and have always been taught to get all the gear down you can except when
> ditching. The gear will absorb some of the impact.
> Dave Bertram
> N350TX
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
> <mailto:reflector at tvbf.org>
> Date: 08/25/07 13:11:08
> To: Velocity List <mailto:reflector at tvbf.org>
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: INCIDENT PHOTO
>
>
> I think my recommendation for ALL is NEVER lower the gear in an off-airport
> landing unless you have a very smooth surface. I think the thing that kills
> people is sudden stoppage from snagging the gear (especially the nose or
> various combinations of gear legs collapsing causing an uneven situation
> where the plane cart wheels or spins or breaks apart.
>
> I am now convinced that the Velocity fuselage can withstand almost any
> impact and slide-out ... If the plane is kept flying straight ahead with a
> constant bleed-off of speed until settling in. I realize you have to have
> terrain that will cooperate.
>
> Tom
>
> On 8/24/07 9:17 PM, "mmerskey at sbcglobal.net" <mmerskey at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> > Tom:
>> >
>> > If you had a spam can the results would have been tragic.
>> >
>> > I have a replacement prop for you. Call or write me
>> >
>> > Milt
>> >
>> > 214 845 1699 miltonm at airmail.net
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On
>> > Behalf Of Alex Balic
>> > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 12:00 PM
>> > To: 'Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list'
>> > Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: INCIDENT PHOTO
>> >
>> >
>> > Looks great even sitting there like that Tom...........
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On
>> > Behalf Of Tom Martino
>> > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 11:01 AM
>> > To: Velocity List
>> > Subject: REFLECTOR: INCIDENT PHOTO
>> >
>> > OK ... Here it is. Hope the attachment goes through.
>> >
>> > Tom
>> >
>> >
>> >
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