REFLECTOR: Gear down to land.

Terry Miles terrence_miles at hotmail.com
Sun Aug 26 09:54:25 CDT 2007


I concur with Dave's thoughts on this.  This forum is a good information
trading vehicle.  I soloed in 1967.  Since 1968 I flew full time for a
living, less a 3 year furlough.  I have never heard anyone suggest gear up
landings.  Since most of us are used to a final descent to touch down w/ the
ability to add power, losing that ability will get you slow unless you are
exceptional skilled.  There will be an intuitive tendency not to continue
descent if the view out the front window is not friendly.  That's why you
often read of people stall out or spin in on engine-out landings which might
otherwise have been less damaging to spinal cord or head injury.  The gear
legs will absorb down vector and forward vector energy.  And if they shred
and take out the whole gear box structure, be thankful.  That is not to
negate some of what Tom is suggesting.  tip:  Given the change to land in a
corn field with 6 foot tall plants or in a bean field with 2 foot tall
plants, which would you choose and why.

The August issue of AOPA carries a very good article about preparing
yourself for post lift-off engine failure.  

Terry

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From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On
Behalf Of David Bertram
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 3:45 PM
To: reflector at tvbf.org
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: INCIDENT PHOTO

 


I am glad things worked out for you.  However two years ago I had an engine
failure and landed in a plowed field that was rutted and rough.  I put my
gear down and the only thing damaged was my gear doors.  I have been flying
since 1960 and have always been taught to get all the gear down you can
except when ditching.  The gear will absorb some of the impact.   

Dave Bertram

N350TX

 

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Date: 08/25/07 13:11:08

To: Velocity List <mailto:reflector at tvbf.org> 

Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: INCIDENT PHOTO

 

I think my recommendation for ALL is NEVER lower the gear in an off-airport

landing unless you have a very smooth surface.  I think the thing that kills

people is sudden stoppage from snagging the gear (especially the nose or

various combinations of gear legs collapsing causing an uneven situation

where the plane cart wheels or spins or breaks apart.

 

I am now convinced that the Velocity fuselage can withstand almost any

impact and slide-out ... If the plane is kept flying straight ahead with a

constant bleed-off of speed until settling in.  I realize you have to have

terrain that will cooperate.

 

Tom

 

On 8/24/07 9:17 PM, "mmerskey at sbcglobal.net" <mmerskey at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

 

> Tom:

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> If you had a spam can the results would have been tragic.

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> I have a replacement prop for you. Call or write me

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> Milt

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> -----Original Message-----

> From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On

> Behalf Of Alex Balic

> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 12:00 PM

> To: 'Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list'

> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: INCIDENT PHOTO

> 

> 

> Looks great even sitting there like that Tom...........

> 

> -----Original Message-----

> From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On

> Behalf Of Tom Martino

> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 11:01 AM

> To: Velocity List

> Subject: REFLECTOR: INCIDENT PHOTO

> 

> OK ... Here it is.  Hope the attachment goes through.

> 

> Tom

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