Fw: REFLECTOR: Aircraft Condition Notice

Tue Mar 7 23:29:33 CST 2006

Maybe its not me that is missing the point. Regulations are updated for a 
reason. If they don't apply to you then don't follow them. I looks very 
clear to me that if you make a MAJOR change to your aircraft as listed in 
21.93 you ARE required to notify the FAA again paragraph 19 of 8130.2E . How 
much clearer can it be written. If you contact your man at the FAA and he 
says that he doesn't care, you better get it in writing. The next FAA 
inspector that does a ramp check on your aircraft and inspects your log 
books and finds a unreported major alteration will say that ignorance of the 
law isn't an excuse. Again, (see attached document paragraph 19).

Anyone else see that I am missing the point, please explain your view. Just 
because your OL might have been written before this law, it doesn't allow 
you to make a major change (21.93) and not report it. I assure you that your 
insurance company wouldn't cover a loss with an unreported major change to 
your aircraft. I know that the FAR's are sometimes as clear as mud. But it 
is up to the builder/pilot to ask the FAA for clarification if you can't 
determine if a reg applies to you and your aircraft. Again I was told to 
always get it in writing by the FAA.

Andy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott Derrick" <scott at tnstaafl.net>
To: "Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list" <reflector at tvbf.org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 10:33 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: REFLECTOR: Aircraft Condition Notice

> Andy, you seem hell bent on missing the point.
>
> Andrew Ellzey wrote:
>> The Revision date of pages 127 through 132 of 8130.2E is 7/22/2003.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Derrick" <scott at tnstaafl.net>
>> To: "Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list" <reflector at tvbf.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 10:06 PM
>> Subject: Re: Fw: REFLECTOR: Aircraft Condition Notice
>>
>>
>>> paragraph 19 is the new, as of a year or so ago, suggestion to FSDO's on 
>>> what should be in the O.L.
>>> In other words, if you were to get your O.L.s re issued or a new OL 
>>> issued the FSDO inspector "may" use this as a template. It doesn't mean 
>>> he or she will.
>>>
>>> Your requirement as an owner of an Experimental Homebuilt is to follow 
>>> the Operating Limitations issued to YOUR airplane.  OL's issued to other 
>>> airplanes mean nothing to what your required to do..
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>> Andrew Ellzey wrote:
>>>>
>>>> See attached document 8130.2E page 130 paragraph (19). Maybe your guy 
>>>> didn't know his FAR's or just didn't want to be bothered.
>>>>  My thoughts.
>>>>  Andy
>>>>
>>>>     ----- Original Message -----
>>>>     *From:* HYTEC45 at aol.com <mailto:HYTEC45 at aol.com>
>>>>     *To:* reflector at tvbf.org <mailto:reflector at tvbf.org>
>>>>     *Sent:* Tuesday, March 07, 2006 9:22 AM
>>>>     *Subject:* Re: REFLECTOR: Aircraft Condition Notice
>>>>
>>>>     In a message dated 3/7/2006 6:50:38 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
>>>>     scott at tnstaafl.net <mailto:scott at tnstaafl.net> writes:
>>>>
>>>>         The FSDO
>>>>         inspector  knew how to read the FAR's, and was very clear that
>>>>         the FAA
>>>>         in an official capacity didn't want to know about any
>>>>         inspections or
>>>>         changes I made to my plane. That was "my" responsibility and
>>>>         only "my"
>>>>         responsibility as spelled out in my O/L's and the FARS's.
>>>>
>>>>     I'm not really concerned about the FAA, I'm concern is with the
>>>>     Insurance companies.  If we throw them into the discussion, they
>>>>     are the ones who will kick back a claim if things are not
>>>>     documented and the operating instructions are followed.
>>>>      TEC
>>>>
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