REFLECTOR: Gross weights

Laurence Coen lwcoen at hotmail.com
Sat Jun 24 12:53:21 CDT 2006


When I took my transition training I was shown how to hold off the nose gear 
on a landing.  One of these days I'm going to get it right.  The problem is 
this.  When the mains touch, the weight shifts from being carried by the 
wing to being carried by the gear.  This is like moving the center of lift 
aft which wants to dump the nose.  The trick is to catch the nose with a 
quick aft movement of the stick just as the mains touch.  The first time I 
tried this I went flying again.  If your too late the nose plops and bounds 
back into the air.  That's the how you do it but it takes lots of practice 
to make it work.  This is why I think transition training is worth the time 
and trouble.  It could save you from breaking something.

Larry Coen
N136LC
SE/RG Franklin/IVO

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chuck Jensen" <cjensen at dts9000.com>
To: "Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list" <reflector at tvbf.org>
Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 11:13 AM
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Gross weights


> Landing technique:  Plop, plop, fizz, fizz, oh what a relief it is.
>
> My XLRG has always been a 'plopper'.  Some say those with a speed brake
> seems to create a cushion of air under the nose that reduces the
> plopping.  Then again, some may have better technique than I...will,
> actually most do.
>
> The odd thing is, though the nose always plops on, the couple times I've
> had nose wheel shimmy, I've actually been able to lift the nose off
> again and hold it off for a go around or to lower it for a second try.
> It seems that the canard stalls/plops onto the runway, yet there is
> enough elevator lift, when applied immediately, to raise the nose again.
> Strange.
>
> Chuck Jensen
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org]
> On
>> Behalf Of Brian Michalk
>
>
>> How good are some of  you guys greasing the landings?  Can you land a
> V
>> without touching the nose gear on the ground?  Or is it a plop it down
>> manuever?
>>
>> What does the perfect landing look like?
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