REFLECTOR: Close Encounter

[Richard J. Gentil]

In 1991 I was cleared to land at Englin ABF, we were turning from Base 
to Final at 500 feet, (we were a Beech 1900 with 19 AFB on board) and as 
we rolled out, I could see out my captain's window an F-15 within feet 
of us. First thing I said to her, "Where is his wingman?" I looked out 
my window and just behind my wing the other F-15 was right there close 
enough to touch.

We immediately did a go around from now 200ft and they just continued to 
land. They did not even care that we were in the middle of them. They 
just saluted us and landed. That was not the only time I have had 
something like that happen. Nothing replaces a good set of Mark 1 Eyeballs.

Richard

gattenby at tulsaconnect.com wrote:

>
> Don't count on trafic following or the tower to keep others away or 
> even inform you of trafic.
> The closest I been to a in air contact came on a 2 mile final at an 
> airport with an active tower and approch control.
>
> They vectored a 737 on base to a short final to 35R when I was cleared 
> for 35L.
> When you are in a 152 and you can hear the 737 above, but can't see 
> it.. and more importanly wasn't told about it... kinda makes you not 
> trust the guys anymore.
>
> Noel
>
> On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 11:50:56 -0700
>  Scott Derrick <scott at tnstaafl.net> wrote:
>
>> Exactly, I was waiting for 9,500 before calling ABQ center for flight 
>> following.  They lost radar on the inbound leg 30 minutes prior, when 
>> descending through 9300 in about the same location.  Luke probably 
>> had me on radar but thats not their area.
>>
>> I was in a T210 and the wing was blocking my view of to the south.  
>> He was just coming out of that obstruction when I saw him.  The 
>> Velocity offers much better visibility in flight.
>>
>> I am also constantly amazed at how hard it is to see airplanes that 
>> are within a mile of my position when traffic is quoted by ATC.  I 
>> don't blame the other guy at all, he looked like he was paying 
>> attention. Just looking level and forward at the time.   Now if he 
>> had been reaching back to get a beer out of the cooler, well thats 
>> another story.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> nmflyer1 at aol.com wrote:
>>
>>> If Scott was where I think he was (over by the twin peaks)  
>>> approach(who is really poor, By the way)  won't  talk to you there, 
>>> And Center  radar  can not  see down that low to help.
>>>  
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: MikeWatsonSpg at cs.com
>>> To: reflector at tvbf.org
>>> Sent: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 10:45:04 EST
>>> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Close Encounter
>>>
>>> Scott,
>>>
>>> If not on an IFR flight plan, flight following is a must, provides
>>> an extra pair of eyes. Never fly VFR without it.
>>>
>>> Mike W.
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