REFLECTOR: Alan Shaw rudder conduits

Mon Aug 28 11:05:50 CDT 2006

My conduits were covered and had to be dug out.
Shaw never sent me the rudder turnbuckles. I've had
spots of delamination on both wings I had to repair!
I'm not impressed with Alan Shaw work and won't be
flying in an Atlantica any time soon!
Good Luck,
Mike Dawson

--- Mark Riley <anriley at comcast.net> wrote:

> 
> I had the same problem with my Wingco/Shaw wings. I
> tried supergluing the
> strands of the end of the rudder cable together and
> turning it in my drill
> thru the conduit, but it just frayed. I got a
> sturdier wire and ground a
> point on it. I passed it as far as I could, measured
> it and cut a small
> access hole beneath it. Turned out it had cut thru
> the sidewall of the
> conduit at a curve. I reinserted and repeated the
> process 2 or three times
> before I managed to get it to the winglet, where it
> popped out about an inch
> from where I had been digging for it. It was a huge
> frustration and a big
> waste of time. They gave me a set of canard tips
> (which were not included at
> the time) to make up for it.
> 
> Good luck!
> 
> 
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>    1. Re:  Rudder conduits on Alan Shaw wings (Brian
> Michalk)
>    2. Re:  Rudder conduits on Alan Shaw wings
> (lawrence epstein)
>    3.  Velocity Stuff (Tstockmn at aol.com)
>    4. Re:  Firewall materials (Keith Hallsten)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 16:45:31 -0700
> From: Brian Michalk <michalk at awpi.com>
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Rudder conduits on Alan Shaw
> wings
> To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
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> Can you get a stiff wire in there, like piano wire?
> Find a friend with some telco equipment, or a
> networking guy.  They may 
> have a cable finder.
> 
> Run the piano wire in as far as it goes.  Attach the
> transmitter, then 
> find the other end of the wire with the receiver.
> 
> lawrence epstein wrote:
> > Try again with picture
> > 
> >> From: "lawrence epstein" <ljepstein at hotmail.com>
> >> Reply-To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders
> list <reflector at tvbf.org>
> >> To: reflector at tvbf.org
> >> Subject: REFLECTOR: Rudder conduits on Alan Shaw
> wings
> >> Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 20:39:02 +0000
> >>
> >> I asked for suggestions about this some months
> ago and have tried them 
> >> all. Still no joy.
> >>
> >> The folowng is an e-mail I sent to Alan. Anybody
> have any other 
> >> suggestions?
> >>
> >> Alan-
> >> I hope all is well. I continue to follow
> Wingco/Atlantica and look 
> >> forward to it's success.
> >>
> >> Anyway-
> >>
> >> I have been trying to find the rudder conduits on
> my (WingCo/V173) 
> >> wings and can't!
> >>
> >> There was a lot of spillage in the recess where
> the internal arm 
> >> should go and the conduit (Outboard) end should
> be as well as some 
> >> "displaced" triax.
> >> I spoke to a few people who had your wings and
> had similar problem 
> >> finding the condit end and all said just keep
> digging and cutting. I 
> >> confirmed with the factory that even triax cut
> away 5-6" in the well 
> >> would still not be a structural problem.
> >>
> >> Anyway, digging was a problem from the opening. I
> then saw a velocity 
> >> at Oshkosh that had your wings and had the same
> problem. He had cut an 
> >> access panel about 3" diameter centered 5" fwd of
> the opened edge (he 
> >> covered it wth plexiglass to have easy inpection
> of the rudder 
> >> cable/turnbuckle). THis looked like a good
> solution and I again 
> >> discussed it with Duane Swing and Ken Baker @ the
> Velocity tent and 
> >> all were OK with the structure.
> >>
> >> Well I cut the holes and dug away, completely
> exposing the outboard 
> >> end of the blue foam of the wing from about 3 to
> 7 inches fwd of the 
> >> winglet open edge, top to bottom and NO
> CONDUIT!!!
> >>
> >> Where should I look now? Any suggestions? I have
> tried to get a stiff 
> >> wire thru the conduit from inboard to outboard
> but anything 
> >> heavy/stiff enough to chuck in a drill, won't
> pass more than about 3 
> >> feet and and the smaller stuff goes only about
> 5-6 feet.
> >>
> >> I have attached a photo
> >>
> > 
> > 
> >> << 100_1000.jpg >>
> > 
> > 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 21:36:48 +0000
> From: "lawrence epstein" <ljepstein at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Rudder conduits on Alan Shaw
> wings
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