REFLECTOR: Accident/Incident

Laurence Coen lwcoen at hotmail.com
Tue Aug 15 09:55:03 CDT 2006


I understand that enough friction to prevent a "free drop" could happen but 
in normal operation the nose gear is lowered with the help of a hydraulic 
cylinder.  Only the mains come out via gravity always.

Larry Coen
N136LC SE/RG
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Tom Martino
  To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
  Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 8:41 AM
  Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Accident/Incident


  I agree.  In gear retraction tests the same thing happened with my gear. 
If the fork is too tight to the strut it can turn a bit and press up against 
the guides stropping a "free drop".




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  From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On 
Behalf Of davedent at comcast.net
  Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 8:28 PM
  To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
  Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Accident/Incident



  Yes Paul does have the guides but with the tension at 20lbs on the washers 
it bound up between the guides.  When he got it on the ground he just had to 
turn the wheel a bit and the gear fell out.  It looks like the 20lbs is to 
much.  I set mine between 15&18 and don't have any problem.  But even then 
this is not the answer.  There has to be a better way.  So far the locking 
pin seems to be the best or the Cessna type shimmy dampener. Let's keep 
working on this.

  Dave



    -------------- Original message -------------- 
    From: "Alex Balic" <alex157 at pwhome.com>

    > Does Paul not have the nose wheel guides in there?
    >
    > -----Original Message----- 
    > From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] 
On
    > Behalf Of Dave Dent
    > Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 2:44 PM
    > To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
    > Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Accident/Incident
    >
    > Just talked with Paul. The nose gear hung up in the well. Seems he put 
the
    >
    > tension at 20lbs and it was to tight. Had a cross wind on take off. So
    > when he put it up, it hung up. Tried everything to get it down. 
Nothing
    > worked so they cleared the way and he put it down on its nose. Afraid 
he
    > would hit to hard he nicked the prop. He says very little damage. Gear
    &g! t; door s and some scuffing. But he is depressed a little. I know 
the feeling.
    > Dave
    > ----- Original Message ----- 
    > From: "steve korney"
    > To:
    > Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 12:28 PM
    > Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Accident/Incident
    >
    >
    > > Was this part of the story of the trip back from OSH.....?
    > >
    > > Best... Steve
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > ----Original Message Follows---- 
    > > From: "Phil Hooper"
    > > Reply-To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
    > > To: "'Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list'"
    > > Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Accident/Incident
    > > Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 10:48:41 -0700
    > >
    > > Argghh...not again! Paul had popped the gear on a hard landing 
several
    > > weeks ago and bl! ew out his repaired MT prop. I know he was going 
back
    > > from
    > > Idaho to Modesto (17 hour drive), and probably put the Catto wood 
back on,
    > > flying back up to Coeur D'Alene. Sounds like he had another problem.
    > > I'll
    > > let y'all know when I learn the details. Dang, third time for Paul!
    > >
    > > -----Original Message----- 
    > > From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] 
On
    > > Behalf Of steve korney
    > > Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 9:42 AM
    > > To: Reflector at tvbf.org
    > > Subject: REFLECTOR: Accident/Incident
    > >
    > > Anyone know anything about this.......?
    > >
    > > IDENTIFICATION
    > > Regis#: 992PC Make/Model: EXP Description: VELOCITY RG-XL
    > > Date: 08/13/2006 Time: 0103
    > >
    > > Event Type: Incident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
    > > ! Damage: Unknown
    > >
    > > LOCATION
    > > City: COEUR D ALENE State: ID Country: US
    > >
    > > DESCRIPTION
    > > ACFT LANDED GEAR UP, COURE D ALANE, ID
    > >
    > > INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0
    > > # Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0
    > > Unk:
    > > # Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0
    > > Unk:
    > > # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0
    > > Unk:
    > >
    > > WEATHER: NOT REPORTED
    > >
    > > OTHER DATA
    > >
    > > Departed: MODESTO, CA Dep Date: Dep. Time:
    > > Destination: COEUR DALENE, ID Flt Plan: Wx
    > > Briefing:
    > > Last Radio Cont:
    > > Last Clearance:
    > >
    > > FAA FSDO: SPOKANE, WA (NM13) Entry date: 08/14/2006
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    > > ----------- 
    > >!
    &g t; > N-number : N992PC
    > > Aircraft Serial Number : 3RX045
    > > Aircraft Manufacturer : CALHOUN PAUL
    > > Model : VELOCITY 173/RG-XL
    > > Engine Manufacturer : LYCOMING
    > > Model : IO-540 SER
    > > Aircraft Year :
    > > Owner Name : CALHOUN PAUL
    > > Owner Address : 1533 RIVER RD
    > > MODESTO, CA, 95351-4324
    > > Type of Owner : Individual
    > > Registration Date : 20-Mar-2002
    > > Airworthiness Certificate Type : Experimental
    > > Approved Operations : Amateur Built
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Best... Steve
    > >
    > >
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