REFLECTOR: Take Off Performance

[Brett Ferrell]

Tom,

I'm glad that you're happy with both your airplanes, and not to start a 
holly war, but I'm curious why you say that that "Cirrus is clearly better 
for cross-country" and it "carries more people and weight" than the 
Velocity.  That's pretty subjective.  I'll give you that the SR22 gets off 
of the ground quicker (1,020' versus 1,300'), which is very useful out west. 
However, the stated useful load of the SR22 is 1150 pounds versus the XL's 
1100, the SR22 has a range of only 700 nm against 1,000 for the XL, and they 
have comparable top end speeds.

Looks to me like the XL and 22 are very evenly matched, with the V having 
slightly more range, with a little less load.  I'd say you have a preference 
for the 22, maybe the 22 has greater payload than the SE, but I don't think 
the data is clear that the 22 has an advantage over the XL.  That's using 
the publsihed data by the factories 
(http://www.velocityaircraft.com/airspecs.html and 
http://www.cirrusdesign.com/aircraft/performance/).  Were you referring 
specifcally to the SE, or did you have different criteria in mind?

Brett

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tom Martino" <tmartino at troubleshooter.com>
To: "Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list" <reflector at tvbf.org>
Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 7:49 PM
Subject: RE: REFLECTOR: Take Off Performance


Since I own both and fly them extensively ... I admit that the Cirrus
burns more gas (not much more) ... but it carries more people and weight
than the V.

For cross-country performance there is no comparison.  The Cirrus wins.

However, the V (which I LOVE) is a great hot rod.  Those who call it a
true four-place cross-country machine are compromising a lot.  Even the
XL leaves much to be desired in this department when you try taking four
people with any kind of baggage.

I realize Vs can be built (even professionally) cheaper than I paid for
the SR-22 ... so price wise ... the argument could go on forever as to
what is the best value.

I believe the Lancair (kit) and RV10 leave V in the dust for
cross-country purposes.

Don't mistake this as a "put-down" of Vs ... I cherish mine.  But I know
it's limitations.

Maybe I'd feel differently living at sea level and flying to lower
airport.

Cheers.



-----Original Message-----
From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On
Behalf Of Scott Derrick
Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 4:31 PM
To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Take Off Performance

Tom Martino wrote:
>
> Once flying ... the performance is about equal.
>
> Is it the canard that makes it sluggish on take-off? That's the only
> tin I can surmise.
>
Really?? I've flown a couple SR22's and seems to me they use a lot more
gas than a Velocity for the same speed. Which isn't equal performance in

my mind.

Scott

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