REFLECTOR: RE: Glass and Resin needs

Wed Jun 22 07:21:50 CDT 2005

Me too!

I have a 173 with fast build wings and fuselage - circa 1999.

Way too much glass balloons (only used 1/4 of it)
Way too much fine BID
Way too much TRIAX
Way too much UNI
Not nearly enough coarse BID
Not nearly enough Epoxy - however, the epoxy hardener gets old after about 
1-2 years and needs to be replaced - so I'd recommend delayed shipping of 
the hardener - ship as needed.

I built pretty much per the plans - well, I made a couple of extra do dads, 
but I also was very precise on measuring epoxy needed to wet the cloth I was 
applying (weight the cloth - measure out the same weight of mixed epoxy).

But it still is a FANTASTIC kit and airplane!!!
Ronnie

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alex Balic" <alex157 at pwhome.com>
To: "'Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list'" <reflector at tvbf.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 10:33 PM
Subject: REFLECTOR: RE: Glass and Resin needs

> C'mon Scott- are you saying that the amount of glass, resin, and filler
> that comes with the kit is actually enough to finish?  I don't think
> that I have wasted much at all, feel I have been anal about it in fact-
> and the only thing that I had enough of was micro (and I might be
> speaking too soon since I have a little bit of filling to do still) I
> have ordered Epoxy twice, both fine and coarse bid twice, triax once,
> and am about to order more (still saving up for that UPS " hazardous"
> shipping charge on the epoxy) I kept every scrap that wasn't
> contaminated with epoxy and I am just about out of those too. Maybe the
> guys with the pre-built kits have enough, but I am guessing that I am
> not the only one  with a build it all yourself kit that has had to come
> back to the table for seconds on glass and resin. I did fab strake
> extensions, but made those from spruce supplied cloth (your resin
> though) but I used Jeffco to build and not just seal the tanks, so I
> figure I came out about even there....
>
> Alex
> Might have a noise-producing engine here in a couple of weeks........
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On
> Behalf Of Scott Baker
> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 6:23 PM
> To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Suprise in my duct
>
> Sounds like an interesting and an "okay" idea from a structural point of
>
> view.  Lots of extra work, of course - but that's "half the fun" of
> homebuilding!  The extra time and materials is the only drawback.
> Advantages = extra space in the ducts.  The conduit cross section is
> enough
> to do the job - albeit the space is pretty full when done.  Note: these
> kinds of operations often use extra BID and Epoxy which is not
> calculated
> into the standard kit.  While this one deviation from the recommended
> plans
> may not cause a builder to run short, doing so a number of times may
> trigger
> a phone call to order more material(s).
> SB
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Terry Miles" <terrence_miles at hotmail.com>
> To: "'Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list'" <reflector at tvbf.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 7:05 PM
> Subject: RE: REFLECTOR: Suprise in my duct
>
>
>> There's a double a bid below and I used the gray stuff to bond the top
>> channel and then two layers of bid over the top flangles.  I have
> likely
>> greater longditudinal stiffness than factory construction recommended
>> bonding instructions.  Everything peel plied.
>> Terry
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org]
> On
>> Behalf Of John Dibble
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 4:17 PM
>> To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
>> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Suprise in my duct
>>
>>
>> What about the integrity of the fuselage?  That seems like a pretty
> long
>> area to be removing the inner shell.  Maybe the factory should comment
>> on this.
>>
>> John
>>
>> Pat Shea wrote:
>>
>>> Terry,
>>>
>>> That's a great idea, as most of Malcolm's are. I would
>>> kill to have more space in my ducts. Any idea what
>>> Malcolm thinks about duct inspection covers? I'm
>>> considering putting in three per duct.
>>>
>>> Pat
>>>
>>> --- Terry Miles <terrence_miles at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > I know it's too late for most who read this today,
>>> > but for posterity, at
>>> > Hangar 18's suggestion I have gouged out the foam on
>>> > the fuselage floor
>>> > where the cannel goes, then re-enforced in that
>>> > area, then laid in the
>>> > channel cover.  This gives us more channel ID by
>>> > almost double. See
>>> > three pics.  I intend to drill a few drain holes
>>> > with what's been
>>> > recently reported. (Thanks for sharing!!)  I also
>>> > hope to create some
>>> > kind of a splash plate on the nose wheel assembly to minimize water
>>> > spray during tkof/landing phase.  Also I'll be doing
>>> > the spring
>>> > actuation on the nose doors instead of hydro...thnks
>>> > for that too.  It's
>>> > way simplier and saves 5 pounds to boot.
>>> >
>>> > Regards,
>>> > Terry
>>>
>>>
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