REFLECTOR: I don't know this aircraft
Brian Michalk
michalk at awpi.com
Tue Jun 14 12:19:01 CDT 2005
TIG welded?
Welding precipitates the alloys, kind of like melted wax leaves an interface
between layers. Resistance welding leaves this "layer", acetylene not so
much.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org
> [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On Behalf Of Velocity_AZ
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 9:09 PM
> To: 'Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list'
> Subject: RE: REFLECTOR: I don't know this aircraft
>
> Everyone on the Reflector -
>
> I just got back from the hangar and had inspected the plane
> more thoroughly.
> The steel fitting that broke was an elbow fitting that was
> originally too long, was cut and welded. It was welded by a
> professional aircraft welder and looks like it broke right at
> the weld. The reason this fitting was shorten was to allow
> more clearance - it was originally rubbing against the firewall.
>
> The welder feels that the fitting may have been broken during
> landing - currently, I don't think so. However, I will
> pressure test the fuel system to make sure there are no other leaks.
>
> My suggestion to others that have any welded parts in their
> aircraft - have them tested (X-rayed, etc.) prior to first
> use. This particular part was fine for over 2 years and 180
> hours but was obviously an accident waiting to happen.
>
> Regards,
>
> Kevin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org
> [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On Behalf Of Terry Miles
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 7:31 PM
> To: 'Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list'
> Subject: RE: REFLECTOR: I don't know this aircraft
>
> Kev,
> Good work. I know what you mean about count your blessings.
> Really glad that you're OK Terry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org
> [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On Behalf Of Alex Balic
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 5:04 PM
> To: velocity_AZ at cox.net; 'Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list'
> Subject: RE: REFLECTOR: I don't know this aircraft
>
>
> Hey Kevin-
> Glad you are OK, I am sure you did a great job on the dead stick
> landing- hope you are airborne again soon :)
>
> Alex
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org
> [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On Behalf Of Velocity_AZ
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 12:41 PM
> To: amillin at sbcglobal.net; 'Velocity Aircraft Owners and
> Builders list'
> Subject: RE: REFLECTOR: I don't know this aircraft
>
> Andy -
>
> It's my plane - Deception - which is a 173 (standard fuselage
> with XL wings
> - fixed gear)
>
> I called in for landing 20 out. At 10 out, 3500-4000'
> decsending, I smelled fuel. Very shortly after that the
> engine quit. I was extemely lucky that I had that wash
> below. I was only about 2000' AGL and decision time was
> extemely limited. I touched down at one end of the wash with
> plenty of room ahead. The ground, while pretty level, was
> rocky. She stopped in about 300' feet. The universe also
> granted me a direct headwind.
>
> Wheel pants destroyed from the rough terrain - stress crack
> in gear - don't know how deep (could be just be paint).
> Minor fiberglass damage in lower cowl around exhaust and
> upper cowl at spinner and upper gear cuffs due to vibration
> on roll out. There may be more damage to landing gear - just
> haven't examined it further yet.
>
> We should all take comfort in knowing that our Velocitys are strong.
>
> Here's something I'd like some feedback on from those flying.
> Just a few weeks ago I was practicing engine out procedures
> and noticed that between 90-100kts my sink rate is 1000-1100'
> per minute. Basically without the big fan working - it's a
> rock. What have others experienced?
>
> Upon taking the plane apart for transport yesterday, I did
> find the problem
> - the fitting between the fuel hose and the throttlebody
> cracked. That's why I smelled fuel and why the engine quit.
> 24 Gallons on-board can't really help if it's no longer
> making its way to the engine.
>
> All in all, yesterday was a very good day - no injury, it
> happened close to home, the plane is in pretty good shape,
> she was due for her annual next month and she' already
> disassembled, and mostly - I writing this to you guys now.
>
> Regards,
>
> Kevin Steiner
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org
> [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On Behalf Of Andy Millin
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:11 AM
> To: 'Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list'
> Subject: REFLECTOR: I don't know this aircraft
>
> No injury is good.
>
> **************************************************************
> **********
> ****
> ****
> ** Report created 6/13/2005 Record 1
> **
> **************************************************************
> **********
> ****
> ****
>
> IDENTIFICATION
> Regis#: 111VX Make/Model: EXP Description:
> EXP- VELOCITY
> XL
> Date: 06/12/2005 Time: 2349
>
> Event Type: Incident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N
> Missing:
> N
> Damage: Minor
>
> LOCATION
> City: PEORIA State: AZ Country: US
>
> DESCRIPTION
> PILOT REPORTED 20M W WITH INFORMATION. THREE MINUTES LATER
> PILOT REPORTED A
> LOST ENGINE AND WOULD NOT MAKE THE ARPT. ACFT LANDED IN A
> WASH 12 MI WEST
> OF ARPT
>
> INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0
> # Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0
> Unk:
>
> # Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0
> Unk:
>
> # Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0
> Unk:
>
>
> WEATHER: 122345Z VRB06KT/10SM CLR 34/04 2977
>
> OTHER DATA
> Activity: Unknown Phase: Cruise Operation:
> General Aviation
>
> Departed: UNKN Dep Date: Dep. Time:
> Destination: Flt Plan: UNK Wx
> Briefing:
> U
> Last Radio Cont: 12M W DEER VALLEY ARPT
> Last Clearance: CLRD TO LND AY RWY
>
> FAA FSDO: SCOTTSDALE, AZ (WP07) Entry date:
> 06/13/2005
>
>
>
> =========================================
>
> Andrew Millin
> Kalamazoo Software, llc
> 5585 Collingwood Dr.
> Kalamazoo MI 49004
> (269) 345-2564
> amillin at kal-soft.com
>
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