REFLECTOR: I don't know this aircraft

Alex Balic alex157 at pwhome.com
Mon Jun 13 16:25:29 CDT 2005 

On that note- in my install, there are two fittings that leave the
engine, and attach to flex host that brings the fuel to and from the
firewall- I have used steel fittings in these 2 locations for just the
possibility that the constant movement between the flex hose and the
engine could possibly weaken an aluminum fitting- Milt Mersky and I
pressurized the fuel rails for the first time yesterday, dialed up to 43
PSI as per specs, didn't notice any cavitation bubbles from the pump,
so now just need to get that damned engine management computer hooked
up.........

-----Original Message-----
From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On
Behalf Of Jim Agnew
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 2:22 PM
To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
Subject: RE: REFLECTOR: I don't know this aircraft

Kevin, 

Was the fitting that cracked steel or aluminum?

Happy to hear that the damage wasn't too bad.  BTW - what kind of prop
do you
have?

Jim

--- Chuck Jensen <cjensen at dts9000.com> wrote:

> Kevin,
> 
> Good piloting and good fortune lined up to make this a minor incident.
I'm
> sure I reflect everyone's sentiments in saying that we a highly
pleased that
> just a little fiberglass got rearranged.  We'll be interested in
hearing any
> speculation/postulation on why the fitting crack.  Or it may be
idiopathic,
> as some things are...they just happen.
> 
> Here's to a rapid reassembly,
> Chuck
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org]On
> Behalf Of Velocity_AZ
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 1:41 PM
> To: amillin at sbcglobal.net; 'Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders
list'
> Subject: RE: REFLECTOR: I don't know this aircraft
> 
> 
> Andy -
> 
> It's my plane - Deception - which is a 173 (standard fuselage with XL
wings
> - fixed gear)
> 
> I called in for landing 20 out.  At 10 out, 3500-4000' decsending, I
smelled
> fuel.  Very shortly after that the engine quit.  I was extemely lucky
that I
> had that wash below.  I was only about 2000' AGL and decision time was
> extemely limited.  I touched down at one end of the wash with plenty
of room
> ahead.  The ground, while pretty level, was rocky.  She stopped in
about
> 300' feet.  The universe also granted me a direct headwind.
> 
> Wheel pants destroyed from the rough terrain - stress crack in gear -
don't
> know how deep (could be just be paint).  Minor fiberglass damage in
lower
> cowl around exhaust and upper cowl at spinner and upper gear cuffs due
to
> vibration on roll out.  There may be more damage to landing gear -
just
> haven't examined it further yet.
> 
> We should all take comfort in knowing that our Velocitys are strong.
> 
> Here's something I'd like some feedback on from those flying.  Just a
few
> weeks ago I was practicing engine out procedures and noticed that
between
> 90-100kts my sink rate is 1000-1100' per minute.  Basically without
the big
> fan working - it's a rock.  What have others experienced?
> 
> Upon taking the plane apart for transport yesterday, I did find the
problem
> - the fitting between the fuel hose and the throttlebody cracked.
That's
> why I smelled fuel and why the engine quit.  24 Gallons on-board can't
> really help if it's no longer making its way to the engine.
> 
> All in all, yesterday was a very good day - no injury, it happened
close to
> home, the plane is in pretty good shape, she was due for her annual
next
> month and she' already disassembled, and mostly - I writing this to
you guys
> now.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Kevin Steiner
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org]
On
> Behalf Of Andy Millin
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:11 AM
> To: 'Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list'
> Subject: REFLECTOR: I don't know this aircraft
> 
> No injury is good.
> 
>
************************************************************************
****
> ****
> **   Report created 6/13/2005   Record 1
> **
>
************************************************************************
****
> ****
> 
> IDENTIFICATION
>   Regis#: 111VX        Make/Model: EXP       Description: EXP-
VELOCITY XL
>   Date: 06/12/2005     Time: 2349
> 
>   Event Type: Incident   Highest Injury: None     Mid Air: N
Missing: N
>   Damage: Minor
> 
> LOCATION
>   City: PEORIA   State: AZ   Country: US
> 
> DESCRIPTION
>   PILOT REPORTED 20M W WITH INFORMATION. THREE MINUTES LATER PILOT
REPORTED
> A
>   LOST ENGINE AND WOULD NOT MAKE THE ARPT. ACFT LANDED IN A WASH 12 MI
WEST
>   OF ARPT
> 
> INJURY DATA      Total Fatal:   0
>                  # Crew:   1     Fat:   0     Ser:   0     Min:   0
Unk:
> 
>                  # Pass:   0     Fat:   0     Ser:   0     Min:   0
Unk:
> 
>                  # Grnd:         Fat:   0     Ser:   0     Min:   0
Unk:
> 
> 
> WEATHER: 122345Z VRB06KT/10SM CLR 34/04 2977
> 
> OTHER DATA
>   Activity: Unknown      Phase: Cruise      Operation: General
Aviation
> 
>   Departed: UNKN                        Dep Date:    Dep. Time:      
>   Destination:                          Flt Plan: UNK          Wx
Briefing:
> U
>   Last Radio Cont: 12M W DEER VALLEY ARPT
>   Last Clearance: CLRD TO LND AY RWY
> 
>   FAA FSDO: SCOTTSDALE, AZ  (WP07)                Entry date:
06/13/2005 
> 
> 
> =========================================
> 
> Andrew Millin
> Kalamazoo Software, llc
> 5585 Collingwood Dr.
> Kalamazoo  MI  49004
> (269) 345-2564
> amillin at kal-soft.com
> 
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James F. Agnew
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Tampa, FL
Velocity 173 Elite Aircraft Completed & Flying
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