REFLECTOR: I don't know this aircraft

Jim Agnew jim_agnew_2 at yahoo.com
Mon Jun 13 14:21:34 CDT 2005


Kevin, 

Was the fitting that cracked steel or aluminum?

Happy to hear that the damage wasn't too bad.  BTW - what kind of prop do you
have?

Jim

--- Chuck Jensen <cjensen at dts9000.com> wrote:

> Kevin,
> 
> Good piloting and good fortune lined up to make this a minor incident.  I'm
> sure I reflect everyone's sentiments in saying that we a highly pleased that
> just a little fiberglass got rearranged.  We'll be interested in hearing any
> speculation/postulation on why the fitting crack.  Or it may be idiopathic,
> as some things are...they just happen.
> 
> Here's to a rapid reassembly,
> Chuck
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org]On
> Behalf Of Velocity_AZ
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 1:41 PM
> To: amillin at sbcglobal.net; 'Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list'
> Subject: RE: REFLECTOR: I don't know this aircraft
> 
> 
> Andy -
> 
> It's my plane - Deception - which is a 173 (standard fuselage with XL wings
> - fixed gear)
> 
> I called in for landing 20 out.  At 10 out, 3500-4000' decsending, I smelled
> fuel.  Very shortly after that the engine quit.  I was extemely lucky that I
> had that wash below.  I was only about 2000' AGL and decision time was
> extemely limited.  I touched down at one end of the wash with plenty of room
> ahead.  The ground, while pretty level, was rocky.  She stopped in about
> 300' feet.  The universe also granted me a direct headwind.
> 
> Wheel pants destroyed from the rough terrain - stress crack in gear - don't
> know how deep (could be just be paint).  Minor fiberglass damage in lower
> cowl around exhaust and upper cowl at spinner and upper gear cuffs due to
> vibration on roll out.  There may be more damage to landing gear - just
> haven't examined it further yet.
> 
> We should all take comfort in knowing that our Velocitys are strong.
> 
> Here's something I'd like some feedback on from those flying.  Just a few
> weeks ago I was practicing engine out procedures and noticed that between
> 90-100kts my sink rate is 1000-1100' per minute.  Basically without the big
> fan working - it's a rock.  What have others experienced?
> 
> Upon taking the plane apart for transport yesterday, I did find the problem
> - the fitting between the fuel hose and the throttlebody cracked.  That's
> why I smelled fuel and why the engine quit.  24 Gallons on-board can't
> really help if it's no longer making its way to the engine.
> 
> All in all, yesterday was a very good day - no injury, it happened close to
> home, the plane is in pretty good shape, she was due for her annual next
> month and she' already disassembled, and mostly - I writing this to you guys
> now.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Kevin Steiner
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On
> Behalf Of Andy Millin
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 10:11 AM
> To: 'Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list'
> Subject: REFLECTOR: I don't know this aircraft
> 
> No injury is good.
> 
> ****************************************************************************
> ****
> **   Report created 6/13/2005   Record 1
> **
> ****************************************************************************
> ****
> 
> IDENTIFICATION
>   Regis#: 111VX        Make/Model: EXP       Description: EXP- VELOCITY XL
>   Date: 06/12/2005     Time: 2349
> 
>   Event Type: Incident   Highest Injury: None     Mid Air: N    Missing: N
>   Damage: Minor
> 
> LOCATION
>   City: PEORIA   State: AZ   Country: US
> 
> DESCRIPTION
>   PILOT REPORTED 20M W WITH INFORMATION. THREE MINUTES LATER PILOT REPORTED
> A
>   LOST ENGINE AND WOULD NOT MAKE THE ARPT. ACFT LANDED IN A WASH 12 MI WEST
>   OF ARPT
> 
> INJURY DATA      Total Fatal:   0
>                  # Crew:   1     Fat:   0     Ser:   0     Min:   0     Unk:
> 
>                  # Pass:   0     Fat:   0     Ser:   0     Min:   0     Unk:
> 
>                  # Grnd:         Fat:   0     Ser:   0     Min:   0     Unk:
> 
> 
> WEATHER: 122345Z VRB06KT/10SM CLR 34/04 2977
> 
> OTHER DATA
>   Activity: Unknown      Phase: Cruise      Operation: General Aviation
> 
>   Departed: UNKN                        Dep Date:    Dep. Time:      
>   Destination:                          Flt Plan: UNK          Wx Briefing:
> U
>   Last Radio Cont: 12M W DEER VALLEY ARPT
>   Last Clearance: CLRD TO LND AY RWY
> 
>   FAA FSDO: SCOTTSDALE, AZ  (WP07)                Entry date: 06/13/2005 
> 
> 
> =========================================
> 
> Andrew Millin
> Kalamazoo Software, llc
> 5585 Collingwood Dr.
> Kalamazoo  MI  49004
> (269) 345-2564
> amillin at kal-soft.com
> 
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James F. Agnew
Jim_Agnew_2 at Yahoo.Com
Tampa, FL
Velocity 173 Elite Aircraft Completed & Flying


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