REFLECTOR: WANTED: Acro contacts

[Alex Balic]

MessageHey Terry,
Welcome to the reflector!
About the velocity doing aerobatics, the canard design in general, and the
Velocity in particular does not lend itself well to any negative G maneuvers
due to the load being shared by both the wing and the canard, in most other
planforms, the wing does all of the carrying, so if you want to go inverted,
you just need to fly the wing at a positive angle of attack with the ground.
If you try a roll with the velocity, you might pull it off, some have, but
chances are, as soon as you go inverted, you will find that there  isn't
enough down elevator to keep the nose level, and the canard is going to pull
you really hard toward the center of the earth, and you will end up doing an
un-commanded split-s.  If you like doing Aerobatics, even Saturday morning
style, you would be better off in an RV which is a blast to fly that way.
  -----Original Message-----
  From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org]On
Behalf Of Terrence Miles
  Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 9:10 PM
  To: 'Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list'
  Subject: RE: REFLECTOR: WANTED: Acro contacts


  Hi,

  I should enjoy my ignoble status while it lasts. I have the honor to

  be the very newest running nose, wide-eyed kid on the block. The kit

  gets delivered in a month or so.   In fact I can't seem to get my own
email out (reflector at tbvf.org) so I had to use the reply function to get
this on the Reflector.  Sorry Dave.

  I've got a quick kind survey question on acro. I bought the V kit for xc
reasons, but are any of you out there doing cuban eights? Is the airplane
any good as an acro platform? I know it can take the G loading...but what
about roll rate with rudder deflection not centerline?   Rudder and aileron
size and effectiveness? I didn't understand a thread in the archives about
dishing out of an aileron roll...did they mean like barrel roll?  If you
raise the nose just a little and bang the stick to the left won't it just
roll around a point w/ very little if any heading change, as opposed to
barrel roll where the flight path simulates a corkscrew as opposed to a
spinning top?

  Are there and VNE problems w/ say doing a simple split S and no speed
brake? The only acro I have done is in jets, so I am a little lost on this
stuff.  Has anyone developed any target speeds/power settings for continuous
cuban eights?  Anybody doing in trail formation stuff that I could talk to
off line?

  Thanks for helping with this. When I become more informed myself, I hope
to somehow return the favor down line.

  Terry

  Now back to your regularly scheduled program....

    -----Original Message-----
    From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On
Behalf Of davedent at comcast.net
    Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 7:18 PM
    To: rwhenderson at msn.com; Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
    Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: WANTED: West Coast CFI (SF Bay Area)


    Check with Steve Murphy.  He gave me my company check ride.  Also has
checked out many others.  He will charge you a small fee for the check ride
and light fees for the training in your plane.  Plus his cost for fuel to
come to your airport.  He live up in the Reno area.
    He had no problem with me seeing I had 1500 hrs in  canards before
flying my Velocity.  I now have 60 hrs on it since last March.
    I'm not a CFI but if you need time in a Velocity before you fly yours
come by and we can make it happen.
    Dave N32XL
    LVK
    -------------- Original message --------------

    > Anyone know any good instructors on the West coast? I'm looking for a
CFI
    > with Velocity experience in the San Francisco Area for an insurance
check
    > ride & sign-off.
    >
    > Must be a CFI w/ at least 50hrs in a Velocity (SUV preferred, but not
    > required). Any referrals would be greatly appreciated!
    >
    >
    > Thanks,
    >
    > - Rob Henderson
    > rwhenderson at msn.com
    >
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