REFLECTOR: FUEL FEED [heur]

Ron Brown romott at adelphia.net
Tue Feb 15 14:31:11 CST 2005


Tom,

I don't think it is a good idea to vent the fuel system into the engine 
compartment, especially if you happen to flip upside down during a crash 
landing.  You will have lots of fuel draining out the vent system into the 
hot engine compartment.

With the factory designed fuel vent line routed up to the top of the 
firewall then back down to exit the bottom of the fuselage, fuel will not 
leak out of the vent system when the airplane is upside down.

One other thought on uneven fuel flow, even if the vents are tied together 
and the plane is flying level/ball centered: there is a possibility that an 
air bubble trapped in the vent line with fuel on either side of the bubble 
can cause an uneven venting of the tanks.  This wouldn't happen if the vent 
lines always slope upward to the manifold.  I think this may be the scenario 
that Jim Sower is seeing from time to time.  I have had it happen a couple 
of times on long trips after filling the tanks nearly full.  After landing 
and parking in my hanger, the fuel tanks were 5 or so gallons different and 
remained that way until I opened the fuel caps.  STRANGE!  Wings are level 
when parked in the hanger.  Another experiment - I placed a 2 x 6 under one 
main tire, simulating a wings down.  Guess what - the fuel level difference 
was MUCH LESS than I have seen in the air.

But again, it could be fuel caps that are not always sealing perfectly for 
every flight.

Ronnie

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tom Martino" <tmartino at troubleshooter.com>
To: "Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list" <reflector at tvbf.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 12:23 PM
Subject: RE: REFLECTOR: FUEL FEED [heur]


My plane flies perfectly.  Not my opinion, it is the assessment of my
test pilot.  The ball is in the center and the plane flies "hands off"
straight and level.

I will keep looking.

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Derrick [mailto:scott at tnstaafl.net]
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 9:18 AM
To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: FUEL FEED [heur]

A leaking gas cap can cause uneven fuel flow but is not the prime
culprit. A bit of fuel valve lube applied to the O ring once a year will

insure this doesn't happen.

A miss-rigged airplane is most likely the cause. Shim your rudders so
the ball is right in the middle and you will get perfect fuel flow.

To test, be sure your turn and bank is installed correctly first,
garbage in garbage out. Then fly, this is the fun part.. Once you see an

uneven condition, press on the rudder that will put the ball in the
middle. If you want to even up the tanks fast, press on the correct
rudder so the ball is on the other side for a couple minutes, you'll see

the fuel even up and even go into the opposite imbalance if you keep the

rudder depressed. Then hold the rudder so the ball is centered, fuel
will flow as it was designed to.

Scott

Tom Martino wrote:

> Well, now that I'm in my test flying mode ... I will really be asking
> a lot of questions.
>
> Here are some of them, as they relate to my fuel system:
>
> 1. What makes the fuel tanks feed unevenly to the header tank/engine?
> (My right tank is feeding twice as fast as my right tank.)
>
> 2. Will that cause a problem when the fast-feeding tank runs out?
>
> 3. I used the larger vent lines for my tanks and tied them al together

> with a manifold, then vented the entire system out through the top of
> my firewall in the engine compartment (about four inches below my naca

> duct). Do you think the system gets enough venting there?
>
> 4. Is there a need for a "whistle" hole in any of the tank vents ...
> for additional venting (like we do with the crankcase breather?
>
> Any help is appreciated from my more experienced Velocitologists J
>
> Tom
>
> N173EX
>
> (A mere 6 hours)
>
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