REFLECTOR: Re: Glide Ratio

[Dave Bertram]

I would agree with the swap.  Your initial emergency call can be brief. 
Position , altitude and S.O.B.s being important.   Dave Bertram 
 
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From: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
Date: 12/20/05 16:10:31
To: 'Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list'
Subject: RE: REFLECTOR: Re: Glide Ratio
 
Dave, 
Shouldn’t you swap 2 and 3?  You could waste 30 seconds or more explaining
your situation to ATC when you could be flying out of range of the best spot
  I guess here in the LA area with mountains and urbania mixed together that
becomes more of an issue than if you are flying over fields of corn.
Blessings
Phil
 



From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On
Behalf Of Dave Bertram
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 12:28 PM
To: reflector at tvbf.org; reflector at tvbf.org
Cc: p51 at hotmail.com
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Re: Glide Ratio
 
I too have had the opportunity to land a Velocity without power.  Here is my
advice based on 45 years of flying:
 
1.  Establish airspeed at 95kts
2.  Declare an emergency 
3.  Choose the most suitable landing area available.
4.  Try for restart except for engine fire
5.  When field is made lower landing gear.
6.  I would add that "fly the airplane" be added after each step
 
I personally held the 95kts through touchdown due to landing in a plowed
field.
 
Congrats on your safe landing.  
Dave Bertram
 
 
-------Original Message-------
 
From: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
Date: 12/18/05 03:19:46
To: reflector at tvbf.org
Cc: p51 at hotmail.com
Subject: REFLECTOR: Re: Glide Ratio
 
Having survived a no engine emergency landing, I do remember that the plane
glides very well with the gear up, but sinks like a rock when you open those
gear doors (probably 6:1). The other thing that is surprising is how long it
takes to lower the main gear (the nose comes down and locks quickly). If you
really want to practice this, time how long it takes to get the mains to
lock, then go out and try to estimate when you need to start them down. It's
way more time than you think. Probably better to put them down at a higher
altitude and circle to land to get the feel of the sink rate before you have
to land.
 
The engine quit when I turned crosswind shortly after takeoff, and I just
made it back to the field, but too little time to lock the mains, so I
skidded in on the backside of the plane. Fortunately, no fire and damage was
not too much due to an iVO composite prop. I was very lucky.
 
 
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