REFLECTOR:Strakes

KeithHallsten reflector@tvbf.org
Sun, 23 May 2004 16:44:47 -0700


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Joe,

When I built my strakes, I built a support frame under each wing that =
maintained the twist of the center section spar so as to keep the wings =
at the correct angle of incidence throughout the (months long) =
strake-building process.  It carried a portion of the weight of each =
wing, but not all of the weight of the wing, and certainly did not =
support the fuselage.  It fit tightly to the wing, so that it couldn't =
get bumped out of position.  I am building a fixed-gear, so the fuselage =
was supported by the gear legs.  If you are building an RG, you could =
support the fuselage on a cradle.  =20

That said, the critical factor is just that your supports are symmetric. =
 That way you will end up with the same geometry on both strakes.  Go =
for it!

Keith Hallsten
   =20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Joe=20
  To: reflector@tvbf.org=20
  Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2004 2:49 PM
  Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Strakes


  Scott,
  Thanks for your reply.  By 0 on incidence angles I did mean a zero =
bubble on the level attached to the respective incidence measuring tool. =
 Leading edge is 2 7/8" above the level of the bottom of the CS spar.

  Should the wing be carrying the weight of the fuselage during this =
process?  or is the wing on only to provide leverage for positioning the =
spar's rotational angle?

  Thanks,
  Joe

  ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Scott Baker=20
    To: reflector@tvbf.org=20
    Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2004 4:46 PM
    Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Strakes



      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: Joe=20
      To: reflector@tvbf.org=20
      Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2004 1:17 PM
      Subject: REFLECTOR:Strakes


      I was wondering if those who have gone before me might review my =
setup and comment before I glass in my first lower strake.  Started the =
strakes yesterday.  Put the wings on, supported AC by the wing tips, =
leveled longitudinal and lateral axis, rechecked canard incidence and =
adjusted wing incidence, trimmed and fit the lower left strake.  Ready =
to glass the lower stake in place this afternoon, but first I am =
rechecking my setup to make certain everything is set right.  My setup =
is as follows:

      The wings are being supported 12" inboard of the tips.
      The landing gear is not carrying any load.
      The forward end of the fuselage is being supported under the =
canard bulkhead.
      The canard is level in the lateral axis.
      The canard incidence angle is 0.
      SB> By this you mean the Canard Incidense Measuring tool (the =
bubble level mounted to a short piece of plywood in the shape of the =
canard airfoil) is level.
      The Center Section Spar is level in the lateral axis.
      The main wing incidence is 0, set by foam blocks between the wing =
and support structure near the tips.
      SB> Same question for the main wings - you are using the Main Wing =
Incidense Measuring tool - and that is what's showing level?
      The main wing incidence  is being measured:
          Leading Edge - measurement point 1" outboard of the strake =
main wing junction.
          Trailing edge - measurement point 125" inboard of the wing =
tip.

      Please let me know if this setup sounds right.
      SB> Everything sounds good - be sure the leading edge of the =
strake - where it attaches to the fuselage - is in the correct position =
as per the construction manual.  Good luck.
      Scott B.

      Thanks,
      Joe
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Joe,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>When I built my strakes, I built&nbsp;a =
support=20
frame under each wing that maintained the twist&nbsp;of the center =
section spar=20
so as to keep the wings at the correct angle of incidence throughout the =
(months=20
long) strake-building process.&nbsp; It carried a portion of the weight =
of each=20
wing, but not all of the weight of the wing, and certainly did not =
support the=20
fuselage.&nbsp; It fit tightly to the wing, so that it couldn't get =
bumped out=20
of position.&nbsp; I am building a fixed-gear, so the fuselage was =
supported by=20
the gear legs.&nbsp; If you are building an RG, you could support the =
fuselage=20
on a cradle. &nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>That said, the critical factor is just =
that your=20
supports are symmetric.&nbsp; That way you will end up with the same =
geometry on=20
both strakes.&nbsp; Go for it!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Keith Hallsten</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Scott,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks for your reply.&nbsp; By 0 on =
incidence=20
  angles I did mean a zero bubble on the level attached to the =
respective=20
  incidence measuring tool.&nbsp; Leading edge is 2 7/8" above the level =
of the=20
  bottom of the CS spar.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Should the wing be carrying the =
weight of the=20
  fuselage during this process?&nbsp; or is the wing on only to provide =
leverage=20
  for positioning the spar's rotational angle?</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Joe</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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REFLECTOR:Strakes</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>
      <DIV>I was wondering if those who have gone before me might review =
my=20
      setup and comment before I glass in my first lower strake.&nbsp; =
Started=20
      the strakes yesterday.&nbsp; Put the wings on, supported AC by the =
wing=20
      tips, leveled longitudinal and lateral axis, rechecked canard =
incidence=20
      and adjusted wing incidence, trimmed and fit the lower left =
strake.&nbsp;=20
      Ready to glass the lower stake in place this afternoon, but first =
I am=20
      rechecking my setup to make certain everything is set right.&nbsp; =
My=20
      setup is as follows:</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>The wings are being supported 12" inboard of the tips.</DIV>
      <DIV>The landing gear is not carrying any load.</DIV>
      <DIV>The forward end of the fuselage is being supported under the =
canard=20
      bulkhead.</DIV>
      <DIV>The canard is level in the lateral axis.</DIV>
      <DIV>The canard incidence angle is 0.</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT color=3D#ff00ff>SB&gt; By this you mean the Canard =
Incidense=20
      Measuring tool (the bubble level mounted to a short piece of =
plywood in=20
      the shape of the canard airfoil) is level.</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV>The Center Section Spar is level in the lateral axis.</DIV>
      <DIV>The main wing incidence is 0, set by foam blocks between the =
wing and=20
      support structure near the tips.</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT color=3D#ff00ff>SB&gt; Same question for the main wings =
- you are=20
      using the Main Wing Incidense Measuring tool - and that is what's =
showing=20
      level?</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV>The main wing incidence&nbsp;&nbsp;is being measured:</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Leading Edge - measurement =
point&nbsp;1"=20
      outboard of the strake main wing junction.</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Trailing edge - measurement point 125" =
inboard of=20
      the wing tip.</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>Please let me know if this setup sounds right.</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT color=3D#ff00ff>SB&gt; Everything sounds good - be sure =
the=20
      leading edge of the strake - where it attaches to the =
fuselage&nbsp;- is=20
      in the correct position as per the construction manual.&nbsp; Good =

      luck.</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT color=3D#ff00ff>Scott B.</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>Thanks,</DIV>
      =
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