REFLECTOR:Grand Rapids Technologies-EFIS
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Air-Parts of Lock Haven sells new Piper type heated pitot/ static masts. =
Last I checked I believe they were under $200. We mounted ours on the =
fuselage side under the canard. You have to make a base for it to sit =
straight. bg
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Scott Baker=20
To: reflector@tvbf.org=20
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 2:45 PM
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Grand Rapids Technologies-EFIS
Velocity factory prices for heated pitot tubes are going through the =
roof
... $400 and climbing.
Say ... Who was the builder in Texas who designed a "home grown" =
heated
pitot? A few years ago he introduced it to the Reflector, but the =
price was
too close to the "catalog" pitot tube that no one was especially =
interested.
I think the time is right to bring this idea back to the front burner. =
I
saw a prototype, all chromed up, looked okay, but still at bit "home =
grown".
It looked quite functional however.
SB
----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Dan Fast" <onefastvelocity@yahoo.com>
To: <reflector@tvbf.org>
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 1:11 PM
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Grand Rapids Technologies-EFIS
> Have you checked with Natalie at Velocity Factory...I
> have found that in most cases their pricing is
> competitive or less...Dan
> --- KeithHallsten <KeithHallsten@quiknet.com> wrote:
> > Chuck,
> >
> > Yes, I've been looking at that one. It's not clear
> > if they have any brackets to mount it under a wing
> > or on the canard. I may have to call them. Anyone
> > else have a pitot tube for less than $350?
> >
> > Keith
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: Chuck Jensen
> > To: 'reflector@tvbf.org'
> > Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 7:36 PM
> > Subject: RE: REFLECTOR:Grand Rapids
> > Technologies-EFIS
> >
> >
> > Keith,
> >
> > I don't know if its a good price but Dynon
> >
> (http://www.dynonavionics.com/docs/pitotfeatures.html)
> > has a $199 unit on their site that also does angle
> > of attach (apparently by measuring the pressure
> > differential between an angled opening and the
> > pressure in the main pitot) but that's only with
> > their EFIS. I didn't figure out if the pitot works
> > without their EFIS. If it does, is $199 half way
> > reasonable for a heated pitot?
> >
> > If I get any other feedback on the GRT unit from
> > other than the Reflector, I'll pass it along.
> >
> > Chuck
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: reflector-admin@tvbf.org
> > [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]On Behalf Of
> > KeithHallsten
> > Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 5:16 PM
> > To: reflector@tvbf.org
> > Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Grand Rapids
> > Technologies-EFIS
> >
> >
> > Chuck,
> >
> > I'm also looking for some "reports from the
> > field" on the GRT EFIS. I have been checking their
> > website pretty regularly the last few months, and
> > they note that 5 of their systems are now flying, so
> > it's still pretty early. They are shipping them as
> > fast as they come off the line, so a lot more will
> > be flying by Oshkosh time.
> >
> > Unless I hear some horror stories in the next
> > few months, I'll probably be putting a two-display
> > GRT system in my panel along with their EIS 6000
> > engine monitor. I'm thinking of a dedicated primary
> > flight display for the upper, and a multiple-mode
> > display for the lower. That would provide moving
> > map and graphical engine parameters on the lower
> > display under normal conditions, and a backup for
> > the primary flight display if the upper one ever
> > goes belly-up. The handheld and panel-mount GPSs
> > would provide backup moving map, and the EIS would
> > provide digital engine parameters. The other
> > backups would be a mechanical airspeed and
> > altimeter, and the new turn coordinator from
> > TruTrak. This looks to be a pretty fault-tolerant
> > no-gyro system at a very reasonable cost. Any
> > critics?
> >
> > The only real shock lately has been the enormous
> > recent price spike in pitot tubes. Anyone got a
> > line on a reasonable-priced heated pitot?
> >
> > Keith Hallsten, XLFG
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: Chuck Jensen
> > To: 'reflector@tvbf.org'
> > Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 11:48 AM
> > Subject: RE: REFLECTOR:Grand Rapids
> > Technologies-EFIS
> >
> >
> > With correct web-link and in non-annoying
> > smaller print.
> >
> > Has anyone had some experience with Grand
> > Rapids (http://www.grtavionics.com) new EFIS unit.
> > I understand several have flow the GRT EIS system
> > and think well of it and the company, but of course,
> > the jump to a full blow EFIS is a quantum leap. On
> > GRT's web site, under installation, there was a
> > photo of an installation in Velocity N31VC, which,
> > with Ronnie Brown's detective work, I understand
> > belonged to Rob at RJohn15183@aol.com, but I haven't
> > been able to contact him by email to see if the unit
> > was installed before he sold the plane or who's
> > currently flying it....and what their impressions
> > were.
> >
> > In short, anyone have any feedback about
> > GRT's EFIS or know anyone I could contact to discuss
> > the same.
> >
> > Chuck
> > 27GV, Panel under (re)construction
>
>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#008000 size=3D2>Air-Parts of Lock Haven =
sells new=20
Piper type heated pitot/ static masts. Last I checked I believe they =
were under=20
$200. We mounted ours on the fuselage side under the canard. You have to =
make a=20
base for it to sit straight. bg</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dsbakr@comcast.net href=3D"mailto:sbakr@comcast.net">Scott =
Baker</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dreflector@tvbf.org=20
href=3D"mailto:reflector@tvbf.org">reflector@tvbf.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, March 29, 2004 =
2:45=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: REFLECTOR:Grand =
Rapids=20
Technologies-EFIS</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Velocity factory prices for heated pitot tubes are =
going=20
through the roof<BR>... $400 and climbing.<BR>Say ... Who was the =
builder in=20
Texas who designed a "home grown" heated<BR>pitot? A few years =
ago he=20
introduced it to the Reflector, but the price was<BR>too close to the=20
"catalog" pitot tube that no one was especially interested.<BR>I think =
the=20
time is right to bring this idea back to the front burner. =
I<BR>saw a=20
prototype, all chromed up, looked okay, but still at bit "home =
grown".<BR>It=20
looked quite functional however.<BR>SB<BR><BR>----- Original Message =
-----=20
<BR>From: "Dan Fast" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:onefastvelocity@yahoo.com">onefastvelocity@yahoo.com</A>&g=
t;<BR>To:=20
<<A =
href=3D"mailto:reflector@tvbf.org">reflector@tvbf.org</A>><BR>Sent:=20
Monday, March 29, 2004 1:11 PM<BR>Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Grand Rapids=20
Technologies-EFIS<BR><BR><BR>> Have you checked with Natalie at =
Velocity=20
Factory...I<BR>> have found that in most cases their pricing =
is<BR>>=20
competitive or less...Dan<BR>> --- KeithHallsten <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:KeithHallsten@quiknet.com">KeithHallsten@quiknet.com</A>&g=
t;=20
wrote:<BR>> > Chuck,<BR>> ><BR>> > Yes, I've been =
looking at=20
that one. It's not clear<BR>> > if they have any brackets =
to mount=20
it under a wing<BR>> > or on the canard. I may have to =
call=20
them. Anyone<BR>> > else have a pitot tube for less than=20
$350?<BR>> ><BR>> > Keith<BR>> > ----- =
Original=20
Message ----- <BR>> > From: Chuck Jensen<BR>>=20
> To: <A=20
href=3D"mailto:'reflector@tvbf.org'">'reflector@tvbf.org'</A><BR>>=20
> Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 7:36 PM<BR>> =
> =20
Subject: RE: REFLECTOR:Grand Rapids<BR>> > =
Technologies-EFIS<BR>>=20
><BR>> ><BR>> > Keith,<BR>> ><BR>> =
> I don't know if its a good price but Dynon<BR>>=20
><BR>> (<A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.dynonavionics.com/docs/pitotfeatures.html">http://www.=
dynonavionics.com/docs/pitotfeatures.html</A>)<BR>>=20
> has a $199 unit on their site that also does angle<BR>> > =
of attach=20
(apparently by measuring the pressure<BR>> > differential =
between an=20
angled opening and the<BR>> > pressure in the main pitot) but =
that's=20
only with<BR>> > their EFIS. I didn't figure out if the =
pitot=20
works<BR>> > without their EFIS. If it does, is $199 half=20
way<BR>> > reasonable for a heated pitot?<BR>> ><BR>>=20
> If I get any other feedback on the GRT unit =
from<BR>> >=20
other than the Reflector, I'll pass it along.<BR>> ><BR>>=20
> Chuck<BR>> > =
-----Original=20
Message-----<BR>> > From: <A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org">reflector-admin@tvbf.org</A><BR>=
>=20
> [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]On Behalf Of<BR>> >=20
KeithHallsten<BR>> > Sent: Sunday, March =
28,=20
2004 5:16 PM<BR>> > To: <A=20
href=3D"mailto:reflector@tvbf.org">reflector@tvbf.org</A><BR>>=20
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Grand =
Rapids<BR>> >=20
Technologies-EFIS<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>>=20
> Chuck,<BR>> ><BR>>=20
> I'm also looking for some "reports from=20
the<BR>> > field" on the GRT EFIS. I have been checking=20
their<BR>> > website pretty regularly the last few months, =
and<BR>>=20
> they note that 5 of their systems are now flying, so<BR>> > =
it's=20
still pretty early. They are shipping them as<BR>> > fast =
as they=20
come off the line, so a lot more will<BR>> > be flying by =
Oshkosh=20
time.<BR>> ><BR>> > Unless I hear =
some=20
horror stories in the next<BR>> > few months, I'll probably be =
putting a=20
two-display<BR>> > GRT system in my panel along with their EIS=20
6000<BR>> > engine monitor. I'm thinking of a dedicated=20
primary<BR>> > flight display for the upper, and a =
multiple-mode<BR>>=20
> display for the lower. That would provide moving<BR>> =
> map=20
and graphical engine parameters on the lower<BR>> > display =
under normal=20
conditions, and a backup for<BR>> > the primary flight display =
if the=20
upper one ever<BR>> > goes belly-up. The handheld and =
panel-mount=20
GPSs<BR>> > would provide backup moving map, and the EIS =
would<BR>>=20
> provide digital engine parameters. The other<BR>> > =
backups=20
would be a mechanical airspeed and<BR>> > altimeter, and the new =
turn=20
coordinator from<BR>> > TruTrak. This looks to be a pretty =
fault-tolerant<BR>> > no-gyro system at a very reasonable =
cost. =20
Any<BR>> > critics?<BR>> ><BR>> =
> =20
The only real shock lately has been the enormous<BR>> > recent =
price=20
spike in pitot tubes. Anyone got a<BR>> > line on a=20
reasonable-priced heated pitot?<BR>> ><BR>>=20
> Keith Hallsten, XLFG<BR>> ><BR>> =
> ----- Original Message ----- =
<BR>>=20
> From: Chuck Jensen<BR>>=20
> To: <A=20
href=3D"mailto:'reflector@tvbf.org'">'reflector@tvbf.org'</A><BR>>=20
> Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 =
11:48=20
AM<BR>> > Subject: RE:=20
REFLECTOR:Grand Rapids<BR>> > Technologies-EFIS<BR>> =
><BR>>=20
><BR>> > With correct =
web-link=20
and in non-annoying<BR>> > smaller print.<BR>> ><BR>>=20
> Has anyone had some =
experience with=20
Grand<BR>> > Rapids (<A=20
href=3D"http://www.grtavionics.com">http://www.grtavionics.com</A>) =
new EFIS=20
unit.<BR>> > I understand several have flow the GRT EIS =
system<BR>>=20
> and think well of it and the company, but of course,<BR>> > =
the=20
jump to a full blow EFIS is a quantum leap. On<BR>> > =
GRT's web=20
site, under installation, there was a<BR>> > photo of an =
installation in=20
Velocity N31VC, which,<BR>> > with Ronnie Brown's detective =
work, I=20
understand<BR>> > belonged to Rob at <A=20
href=3D"mailto:RJohn15183@aol.com">RJohn15183@aol.com</A>, but I =
haven't<BR>>=20
> been able to contact him by email to see if the unit<BR>> > =
was=20
installed before he sold the plane or who's<BR>> > currently =
flying=20
it....and what their impressions<BR>> > were.<BR>> =
><BR>>=20
> In short, anyone =
have any=20
feedback about<BR>> > GRT's EFIS or know anyone I could contact =
to=20
discuss<BR>> > the same.<BR>> ><BR>>=20
> Chuck<BR>>=20
> 27GV, Panel under =
(re)construction<BR>><BR>><BR>>=20
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