REFLECTOR:Old Standard Velocity Fuel Strakes.

Sat Jun 12 10:27:14 CDT 2004

Ronnie, Greg, Alex, Richard,

I am not a stranger to working with glass and epoxy. I have friends that have built
EZs and Cozys along with the current owner of the AeroCad, Inc. factory (Same design
as a Cozy IV) who all are willing to help.

I did not mean for it to sound haphazard, Greg. I meant that I would do my best to get
a proper repair. If it was not air tight, then I did not have a problem at that time,
completely removing the Strake and starting over from scratch. I do not do anything
unless it I give it 100% and I always do it right. (Learned a long time ago, doing it
right the first time saves a lot of time in the long run.)

As for the Jeffco, since I cannot get to every area of the open Strake and the Strake
on other side is completely sealed, I was going to just stick to EZ-poxy. My plan is
for a 100LL only aircraft with a Lycoming TIO-360. Like a good friend once said. "How
Experimental do you want to get." when referring to using a non aviation powerplant on
a experimental aircraft. I figure I will go with a proven aviation powerplant and an
experiment airframe. :o)

Richard

Ronnie Brown wrote:

> I definitely agree, repair the strakes that you have.  Replacing them would
> be a real bear for little to no benefit over what you have now.  Too bad
> Travis had to cut it up to get it into a storage building but it is
> repairable,
>
> Take your time and think through Brendon's process.  You should be able to
> make them as good as new.  That is the nice thing about this fiberglass and
> epoxy stuff.  Everything is repairable - well almost everything!!!
>
> Ronnie
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard J. Gentil" <richard at naples-air-center.com>
> To: <reflector at tvbf.org>
> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 2:31 PM
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Old Standard Velocity Fuel Strakes.
>
> | Here are the pix as promised:
> |
> | http://www.velocityelite.com/highrez/strake1.jpg
> |
> | http://www.velocityelite.com/highrez/strake2.jpg
> |
> | http://www.velocityelite.com/highrez/strake3.jpg
> |
> | http://www.velocityelite.com/highrez/strake4.jpg
> |
> | http://www.velocityelite.com/highrez/strake5.jpg
> |
> | http://www.velocityelite.com/highrez/strake6.jpg
> |
> | http://www.velocityelite.com/highrez/strake7.jpg
> |
> | I think I am going to just do the repair and see if it is airtight. If
> not, then I will
> | look at removing and starting over.
> |
> | Richard
> |
> | "Richard J. Gentil" wrote:
> |
> | > Joe, Al, and Pat,
> | >
> | > Thanx again for your interest and insight. Here is the reply I had from
> Brendan.
> | > (Duane gave me the same response.)
> | >
> | > "Richard,
> | > It is fixable. What is your background with working with fiberglass? It
> | > isn't a difficult fix but I wouldn't want to take a fuel tank fix like
> this
> | > on as my first project without having someone who has previous
> experience
> | > near by. A Cozy ,Long-EZ or Velocity builder would do. Take the piece of
> | > strake that was cut off. Cut the bottom part of the strake piece off
> along
> | > the leading edge. Glass the bottom section of the strake piece in place
> | > using a 2 bid layup on the outside and on the inside. Reinstall the
> baffle
> | > that was cut and glass in place. Recoat all the joints with EZ-poxy to
> seal
> | > like the original tank was sealed. Make a 2 to 3 bid flange all the way
> | > around the opening. This is so you have something for the top to seal
> to.
> | > Make a flange also down the leading edge where the top and bottom meet.
> Bond
> | > the top piece in place as the strake was originally bonded in with
> EZ-poxy
> | > and flox or milled fiber. Glass the outside with 2 bid as well. That's
> it.
> | > Again if you don't have previous glass experience and what I have
> written
> | > above sounds like Greek to you than you need to get some experienced
> help to
> | > tackle this repair.
> | >
> | > Brendan O'Riordan"
> | >
> | > I was wondering what the benefits of the old vs the new Strakes, since
> depending on
> | > what they were, would greatly influence whether I repair now and see
> what happens or
> | > just skip it and remove both Strakes and start over with the new Strake
> design.
> | >
> | > I will post the High Rez Pix to my website shortly and I will send out
> the link.
> | >
> | > Thanx again,
> | >
> | > Richard
> | >
> | > Joe wrote:
> | >
> | > > Welcome Richard,
> | > > I am just about to finish my first strake.  It will be a tick over 3
> weeks
> | > > when I am finished.  That was starting with new parts and not having
> to
> | > > remove the old structure.  Unless the structural or fuel containment
> | > > integrity is in question, I would think long and hard before deciding
> to
> | > > replace the strakes.  Cost may also be a consideration, I had to buy 2
> new
> | > > strake halves, 1 due to delamination and 1 for physical damage from
> the
> | > > previous owner - they cost $180 each.   Below is a cost estimate of
> building
> | > > new strakes, add shipping and/or sales tax and it will end up being
> between
> | > > $1500 and $2000. ( and a lot of hours)
> | > >     $ 720 - Strakes 4 x 180
> | > >     $ ??? - Wheel Wells 2 x ???
> | > >     $  55 - Foam
> | > >     $  80 - BID
> | > >     $  80 - Structural Epoxy
> | > >     $ 200 - Jeffco Epoxy
> | > >     $ 200 - Fuel caps, tubing, supplies, contingencies.
> | > >
> | > > Joe
> | > >
> | > > ----- Original Message -----
> | > > From: "Richard J Gentil" <richard at naples-air-center.com>
> | > > To: <reflector at tvbf.org>
> | > > Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 6:27 PM
> | > > Subject: REFLECTOR:Old Standard Velocity Fuel Strakes.
> | > >
> | > > > Hey Gang,
> | > > >
> | > > > I am new to the Reflector. I recently purchased Travis Young's
> Project.
> | > > > He had a Standard Velocity RG that he converted to the Elite Doors.
> So
> | > > > what I have is the old style Fuel Strakes with the Elite Doors. (I
> do
> | > > > like that there is extra room for the door arm rest.)
> | > > >
> | > > > One thing Travis did was he cut badly into the left Fuel Strake with
> a
> | > > > hacksaw, in order to get the fuselage to fit into a self storage
> unit.
> | > > > (I do have pictures, but I did not know what the policy was for
> | > > > including attachments in Reflector Emails.) I have to decide whether
> to
> | > > > repair the damage or just put on a new Strake.
> | > > >
> | > > > My question is, does the old style Strakes vs the new style Strakes
> make
> | > > > any difference in fuel capacity and cruise speed? (Since if I was
> going
> | > > > to start over on the one side, I could also do the other side so
> they
> | > > > are the new style Strakes.)
> | > > >
> | > > > Thanx,
> | > > >
> | > > > Richard
> | > > >
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