REFLECTOR: Big engine on a STD RG?

Wed Jul 7 16:49:08 CDT 2004

Actually I don't consider an IO360 as a "big engine" for the Std 
Velocity..... Even the 200HP variants.  I was more interested in 260+ HP 
engines.

Scott

At 02:59 PM 7/7/2004, you wrote:
>Way back when, I built up a TIO-360-C1A6D for Burt Rutan for his Boomerang.
>We had two of them that we bought from the fellows at Featherlite.  They
>were going on John Ronce's new plane at the time.  That devotionally grew to
>need a larger engine. Burt got them at a real good price and I opened them
>up to see how they survived long time storage.  They were zero time engines.
>You can still find these, sometimes they show up at Oshkosh. I have seen
>them as low as $16K, zero time.
>
>They have a solid crank in them with no counterweights.  Great for some
>aerobatic planes.  They have a good turbo system on them and are one of the
>most rugged built engine Lycoming produced.  They were built for a special
>program that fell through. So a number of years later they came up on the
>block.
>
>Burt and I decided to change out the $8500 crank for a sixth order crank,
>$3500,  because of the props he was going to install on the plane.  So I
>took one of the engines and changed out the crank and then we took the
>engine off his Cat Bird and put it on the front of the plane.  The other
>engine -C1A we sold to a fellow at Livermore and he still has it sitting in
>his hangar. Not installed on a plane. The two engines on the Boomerang are
>not the same.  One has an auto waste gate and the other a manual waste gate.
>The manual one will produce more power at altitude.
>So I do believe the TIO-360 is a great engine if you have the room to mount
>it. The turbo sits back away from the engine case so this has to be
>considered as well. Or you would have to redesign the exhaust system and
>turbo mounting. Consider these kind of issues when selecting an engine as
>well.
>
>House power is not the only thing to consider.  Airframe compatibility,
>weight and props to use should also be taken into play as well
>
>I know this is a little history about this engine selection and I hope I
>haven't bored you with it but it is a thing to consider. when you come to
>choosing an engine that maybe others haven't put on your type of plane.
>Dave
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Richard J. Gentil" <richard at naples-air-center.com>
>To: "Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list" <reflector at tvbf.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 1:26 PM
>Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Big engine on a STD RG?
>
>
> > I would be interested in hearing what kind of numbers the big engines are
>producing. Right now I have not made my final choice for an engine. I am
> > debating between the Lycoming TIO-360-C1A6D and the DeltaHawk DH200A4. I
>would prefer a 6 cylinder engine should I go with a Lycoming, since I want
> > something turbo charged and fuel injected. (The 4 cylinder turbo charged
>Lycomings are not the greatest engines out there.)
> >
> > Richard
> >
> > Tom Martino wrote:
> >
> > > I have an Elite 173 RG with an IO-540.  Scott Baker tells me he is only
>aware of three like this:  mine, Chuck (in California) and a guy in England.
> > >
> > > I should be test flying in August.
> > >
> > >         -----Original Message-----
> > >         From: aminetech at bluefrog.com [mailto:aminetech at bluefrog.com]
> > >         Sent: Wed 7/7/2004 12:39 PM
> > >         To: reflector at tvbf.org
> > >         Cc:
> > >         Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Big engine on a STD RG?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >         Alan Shaw had one.  I don't know who he sold it to.
> > >
> > >         John
> > >
> > >         Scott Derrick wrote:
> > >
> > >         > Anybody on this list flying a STD Velocity with a big engine?
> > >         >
> > >         > 250 HP+
> > >         >
> > >         > Anybody know somebody that is and can give me his email addy
>or I
> > >         pass on
> > >         > mine to them?
> > >         >
> > >         > thanks,
> > >         >
> > >         > Scott
> > >
> > >
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