REFLECTOR:High Temps on taxi

jack davis reflector@tvbf.org
Mon, 19 Jan 2004 16:47:09 -0500


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Tony,

Yes, it is the one you put behind a radiator.  I don't have a picture of =
the installation, but I just bolted it to the bottom of the inside lower =
cowl using the existing tabs on the fan.  I believe it is a 9-inch =
diameter fan.  I did install a screen sanwiched between the fan and the =
cowl.  In the unlikely event that the fan ever came loose, the screen =
would keep it from going through the prop.

Jack
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Tony Babb=20
  To: reflector@tvbf.org=20
  Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 4:38 PM
  Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:High Temps on taxi


  Jack,

  Do you have a photo of showing where it was installed? Is the fan one =
of the electric ones you put behind a radiator?

  Thanks

  Tony

  SEFG - still a long way from taxiing, let alone flying.
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: jack davis=20
    To: reflector@tvbf.org=20
    Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 9:32 AM
    Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:High Temps on taxi


    Mike,

    I have an automobile after-market cooling fan installed in the =
bottom of my cowl (I have the top NACA scoops for cooling).  I only use =
the fan on hot days while taxiing or waiting on the ground.  It works =
extremely well in keeping the CHTs in the 320 - 350 degree range.  I =
once had to hold on the ground for 25 minutes when the ambient =
temperature was 96 degrees and the CHTs never got above 380 degrees.

    It seems, at first, that the fan wouldn't work because of the large =
opening at the cowl exit, but the prop must provide enough pull to keep =
the fan effective.  The fan that I have doesn't weigh very much.  You =
can get them at any auto store or through the JC Whitney catalog.

    Jack
      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: MikeWatsonSpg@cs.com=20
      To: reflector@tvbf.org=20
      Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 6:42 PM
      Subject: REFLECTOR:High Temps on taxi


      OK, from analyzing the answers so far, the cure for high temps on =
taxi and hold
      is to:

      1} Male sure the plenum is tight around the cylinders.   DONE
      2} Lean like hell while idling.  ALWAYS DO.
      3} use bilge fan to cool oil.        HAVEN'T DONE THAT YET
      4} Make sure cowl is as close to prop as possible.  DONE
      5} make slots on lower cowl for air to exit.

      Scott Swing already tried # 5 with minimal results.

      Maybe mounting a big fan (ala Volkswagen) with the top nacca scoop =

      will resolve the heat problem?????

      Mike W.



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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tony,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Yes, it is the one you put behind a =
radiator.&nbsp;=20
I don't have a picture of the installation, but I just bolted it to the =
bottom=20
of the inside lower cowl using the existing tabs on the fan.&nbsp; I =
believe it=20
is a 9-inch diameter fan.&nbsp; I did install a screen sanwiched between =
the fan=20
and the cowl.&nbsp; In the unlikely event that the fan ever came loose, =
the=20
screen would keep it from going through the prop.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jack</FONT></DIV>
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  taxi</DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jack,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Do you have a photo of showing =
where&nbsp;it was=20
  installed? Is the fan one of the electric ones you put behind a=20
  radiator?</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tony</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>SEFG - still a long way from taxiing, =
let alone=20
  flying.</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, January 17, =
2004 9:32=20
    AM</DIV>
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Temps on=20
    taxi</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mike,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have an automobile after-market =
cooling fan=20
    installed in the bottom of my cowl (I have the top NACA scoops for=20
    cooling).&nbsp; I only use the fan on hot days while taxiing or =
waiting on=20
    the ground.&nbsp; It works extremely well in keeping the CHTs in the =
320 -=20
    350 degree range.&nbsp; I once had to hold on the ground for 25 =
minutes when=20
    the ambient temperature was 96 degrees and the CHTs never got above =
380=20
    degrees.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It seems, at first, that the fan =
wouldn't work=20
    because of the large opening at the cowl exit, but the prop must =
provide=20
    enough pull to keep the fan effective.&nbsp; The fan that I have =
doesn't=20
    weigh very much.&nbsp; You can get them at any auto store or through =
the JC=20
    Whitney catalog.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jack</FONT></DIV>
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      style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
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      <A title=3DMikeWatsonSpg@cs.com=20
      href=3D"mailto:MikeWatsonSpg@cs.com">MikeWatsonSpg@cs.com</A> =
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      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 13, =
2004 6:42=20
      PM</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> REFLECTOR:High =
Temps on=20
      taxi</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 =
face=3DArial size=3D2=20
      FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" PTSIZE=3D"10">OK, from analyzing the answers =
so far, the=20
      cure for high temps on taxi and hold<BR>is to:<BR><BR>1} Male sure =
the=20
      plenum is tight around the cylinders.&nbsp;&nbsp; DONE<BR>2} Lean =
like=20
      hell while idling.&nbsp; ALWAYS DO.<BR>3} use bilge fan to cool=20
      oil.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; HAVEN'T DONE THAT =
YET<BR>4}=20
      Make sure cowl is as close to prop as possible.&nbsp; DONE<BR>5} =
make=20
      slots on lower cowl for air to exit.<BR><BR>Scott Swing already =
tried # 5=20
      with minimal results.<BR><BR>Maybe mounting a big fan (ala =
Volkswagen)=20
      with the top nacca scoop <BR>will resolve the heat=20
      problem?????<BR><BR>Mike=20
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