REFLECTOR:Accident/incident

Ronnie Brown reflector@tvbf.org
Sat, 28 Feb 2004 16:56:12 -0500


Thanks for the report, Mike.

Do you know if the nose wheel fork was original or the newer, thicker
casting?

I think several of the older, thin castings have broken in the past.  The
factory suggested that I replace mine a couple of years ago.

They also suggested that Jim White replace his FG nose wheel fork on his
much older standard (DMO178) during his last factory annual, last fall.

Ronnie Brown
173 Elite RG

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Pollock" <m.pollock@verizon.net>
To: <reflector@tvbf.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2004 12:42 PM
Subject: REFLECTOR:Accident/incident


| Hello velocity people,
|
| I just thought I would fill you guys in on the accident/incident reported
on
| Velocity N173DT a couple of days ago.  N173DT was built by myself and
three
| other guys and first flown on July 29th, 1997.  It is a 173RG longwing
with
| the standard clamshell door.  The plane was flown for 5 years and then
sold
| to Paul Gold from Florida last September.  Paul was the pilot during the
| landing at Boca Raton that did not go well.  According to Paul, the
landing
| was normal up to the point where the nose fork casting separated from the
| nose gear strut.  Apparently, the casting broke apart as the nose gear was
| lowered.  Paul believes the casting may have had a crack or something that
| caused it to prematurely fail.  The aircraft is repairable and no injuries
| occurred.  The only reason a report was filed on this incident is that the
| news media was at the airport, along with the NTSB and FAA.  According to
| Paul, the NTSB was the driving force on the report, not him.
|
| Regards,
|
| Michael Pollock
| Builder/Partner Velocity N173DT
| EAA #411862
| EAA Chapter #1246
| Technical Counselor #4357
| Based at TKI / NE Dallas Metroplex
|
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|    1. Accident/incident (steve korney)
|    2. Re: Accident/incident (HYTEC45@aol.com)
|    3. Re: Accident/incident (NMFlyer1@aol.com)
|    4. Experimental Fly-in (John Dibble)
|    5. Re: Accident/incident (KeithHallsten)
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| Message: 1
| From: "steve korney" <s_korney@hotmail.com>
| To: Reflector@tvbf.org
| Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 16:47:03 +0000
| Subject: REFLECTOR:Accident/incident
| Reply-To: reflector@tvbf.org
|
| Lets all be careful out there...
|
|
|
| IDENTIFICATION
|   Regis#: 173DT        Make/Model: VELO      Description: VELOCITY
|   Date: 02/26/2004     Time: 2304
|
|   Event Type: Incident   Highest Injury: None     Mid Air: N    Missing: N
|   Damage: Minor
|
| LOCATION
|   City: BOCA RATON                  State: FL   Country: US
|
| DESCRIPTION
|   ACFT WHILE LANDING ON RWY 23, THE NOSE TIRE FAILED. ACFT COMPLETED
LANDING
|   ON NOSE WHEEL ONLY. BOCA RATON, FL
|
| INJURY DATA      Total Fatal:   0
|                  # Crew:   1     Fat:   0     Ser:   0     Min:   0
Unk:
|                  # Pass:   2     Fat:   0     Ser:   0     Min:   0
Unk:
|                  # Grnd:         Fat:   0     Ser:   0     Min:   0
Unk:
|
| WEATHER: BCT SPECI 262304Z 26008KT 9SM FEW060 24/13 A2988
|
|
|
| OTHER DATA
|   Activity: Unknown      Phase: Landing      Operation: General Aviation
|
|   Departed: BOCA RATON, FL  BCT         Dep Date:    Dep. Time:
|   Destination:                          Flt Plan: VFR          Wx
Briefing:
| U
|   Last Radio Cont: SHORT FINAL RWY 23
|   Last Clearance: CLRD LND RWY 23
|
|   FAA FSDO: FT LAUDERDALE, FL  (SO17)             Entry date: 02/27/2004
|
| --------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
| ---------------------------------------
|
| N-number                       : N173DT
| Aircraft Serial Number         : 001
| Aircraft Manufacturer          : POLLOCK MICHAEL D
|          Model                 : VELOCITY 173RG
| Engine   Manufacturer          : LYCOMING
|          Model                 : I0360 SER A&C
| Aircraft Year                  : 1997
| Owner Name                     : REGISTRATION PENDING
| Owner Address                  : 15082 TALL OAK AVE
|                                  DELRAY BEACH, FL, 33446-9510
| Type of Owner                  : Individual
| Registration Date              : Not Specified
| Airworthiness Certificate Type : Experimental
| Approved Operations            : Amateur Built
|
|
|
|
|
| Best... Steve
|
| _________________________________________________________________
| Stay informed on Election 2004 and the race to Super Tuesday.
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| Message: 2
| From: HYTEC45@aol.com
| Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 12:17:45 EST
| Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Accident/incident
| To: reflector@tvbf.org
| Reply-To: reflector@tvbf.org
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| Wonder why something like this would even be reported.
|
| TEC
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| <DIV>Wonder why something like this would even be reported.</DIV>
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| Message: 3
| From: NMFlyer1@aol.com
| Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 13:01:29 EST
| Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Accident/incident
| To: reflector@tvbf.org
| Reply-To: reflector@tvbf.org
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| Good Q, Tech.  keep in mind, if there are no injuries, and no "significant
| damage", Theese things do not need to be reported.
|
| As The Manager here at Mid Valley Airpark, I have found that many people
do
| not know what does and does not need to be reported (this includes by
| airport
| managers).  Sometimes the pilot doesn't have control over what is
reported,
| even if it does Not need to be (someone in the tower or airport calls the
| FAA...
| etc). If you do have a say, and noone is injured and the damage is (in
your
| mind) not significant.... Do Not Report it!.. It only adds to the
paperwork
| hell
| we all live in.  :)
|
|
|  Best,  Kurt Winker.
|
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| <DIV>Good Q, Tech.&nbsp; keep in mind, if there are no injuries, and no
| "sig=
| nificant damage", Theese things do not need to be reported. </DIV>
| <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
| <DIV>As The Manager here at Mid Valley Airpark, I have found that many
| peopl=
| e do not know what does and does not need to be reported (this includes by
| a=
| irport managers).&nbsp; Sometimes the pilot doesn't have control over what
| i=
| s reported, even if it does Not need to be (someone in the tower or
| airport=20=
| calls the FAA... etc). If you do have a say, and noone is injured and the
| da=
| mage is (in your mind) not significant.... Do Not Report it!.. It only
| adds=20=
| to the paperwork hell we all live in.&nbsp; :) </DIV>
| <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
| <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
| <DIV>&nbsp;Best,&nbsp; Kurt Winker. </DIV></BODY></HTML>
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| Message: 4
| Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 17:58:43 -0600
| From: John Dibble <aminetech@bluefrog.com>
| Organization: Aminetech, Inc.
| To: reflector@tvbf.org
| Subject: REFLECTOR:Experimental Fly-in
| Reply-To: reflector@tvbf.org
|
| For anyone near central MS there is an experimental fly-in tomorrow at
| Yazoo City (87I).  Probably won't be a big event, but some place to fly
| to on what looks to be a great day.
|
| John
|
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| Message: 5
| From: "KeithHallsten" <KeithHallsten@quiknet.com>
| To: <reflector@tvbf.org>
| Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Accident/incident
| Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 17:55:03 -0800
| Reply-To: reflector@tvbf.org
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| I note the last clearance "Cleared to Land, Rwy 23".  Probably the tower =
| reported it.
|
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|   From: HYTEC45@aol.com=20
|   To: reflector@tvbf.org=20
|   Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 9:17 AM
|   Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Accident/incident
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|   Wonder why something like this would even be reported.
|
|   TEC
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| <DIV>I note the last clearance "Cleared to Land, Rwy 23".&nbsp; Probably =
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|   <DIV>Wonder why something like this would even be reported.</DIV>
|   <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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