REFLECTOR: Yoke vs. Stick

Wed Dec 1 20:25:03 CST 2004

I have my electric prop control and my speed brake on my throttle.
What fun!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ronnie Brown" <romott at adelphia.net>
To: "Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list" <reflector at tvbf.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 9:15 PM
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Yoke vs. Stick


> There ya go!!!  Not a defective design at all.  I put an elevator trim 
> next
> to the throttle( in addition to the stick mounted HAT).  Between the trim,
> throttle and rudders, you really don't need to choke the "poorly" placed
> center stick while working the radios.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Scharfenberg" <dave at winco.net>
> To: "Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list" <reflector at tvbf.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 7:23 PM
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Yoke vs. Stick
>
>
>> Personally, I love the center stick design.  I can't think of a more
>> comfortable way to fly.  While looking through the wiring diagrams for my
>> King radios, I saw the option for the remote flip/flops on both the nav
> and
>> coms.  It's a simple matter of running a wire from the back of the radio
> and
>> switching it to ground.  I put the remote flip/flop push buttons on my
> left
>> hand console along with the remote ident button.  I also installed a
> remote
>> memory scroll button in the same area.  If things get busy, I can scroll
>> through up to 10 frequencies in the stand-by window and then flip/flop to
>> active.
>>
>> Dave Scharfenberg
>>
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>> on 12/1/04 7:54 AM, Scott Derrick at scott at tnstaafl.net wrote:
>>
>> > I don't think its the stick-handeness.  Adjusting to left or right 
>> > stick
>> > takes 5 minutes tops.
>> >
>> > In an EZ with a right stick, the panel is on the left, everything 
>> > within
>> > easy reach of your left hand.
>> >
>> > In a Cozy same thing for the left or right seat if it has dual sticks
> like
>> > a Cirrus.
>> >
>> >
>> > Scenario in my Velocity:  I'm tracking the glideslope down, hand
>> > flying,  Approach says "contact tower"..  I now have to (1) reach 
>> > across
>> > with my left hand and dial/switch the radio, (2)  let go of the stick
> and
>> > switch with my right hand.
>> >
>> > Either way is not ergonomic. The center stick does not promote safe
>> > operation of the airplane..  Its a fubar situation any way you do it.
>> >
>> > The center stick, while easy to engineer and fabricate is one of the
>> > Velocities weak operational points.  Like I said, its a shame the
> factory
>> > wasted their time designing a dual yoke system, when they could have
> done a
>> > dual stick like the Cirrus....  Scott, YOU LISTENING???
>> >
>> > That said I still prefer it over a yoke, because of comfort and less
> stress
>> > on long flights, which does promote safety.  It cuts both ways.
>> >
>> > Scott
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > At 09:49 PM 11/30/2004, you wrote:
>> >> EZ has right stick, left throttle.  Cozy has left stick, right
>> >> throttle.  Nobody seems to have a problem going back and forth from 
>> >> one
> to
>> >> the other.
>> >> Jim S.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Ronnie Brown wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> I have seen several RV's set up this way.  Pilot and instruments on
> the
>> >>> right side so they could fly it like a cub or champ, stick in right
> hand,
>> >>> throttle in left hand.  I considered doing the same thing, but 
>> >>> decided
> I
>> >>> didn't want to build another panel - mirrored from the standard 
>> >>> panel.
> I
>> >>> had 800 hours in a C172 and I thought the opposite throttle and
> controls
>> >>> would be a problem - but not.
>> >>>
>> >>> I have flown my plane 150 hours which includes a good bit of IMC and
> it
>> >>> turns out to be a non issue.  The Velocity is so steady it is easy to
> fly
>> >>> it hands off, or using my left hand on the stick and right hand for
> the
>> >>> radios.  Turn the Navaid autopilot on and it is really easy.
>> >>> Copying clearances is a non problem too.  Ronnie
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>> *From:* HYTEC45 at aol.com <mailto:HYTEC45 at aol.com>
>> >>> *To:* reflector at tvbf.org <mailto:reflector at tvbf.org>
>> >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 30, 2004 6:06 PM
>> >>> *Subject:* Re: REFLECTOR: Yoke vs. Stick
>> >>>
>> >>> In a message dated 11/30/2004 2:30:20 PM Pacific Standard Time,
>> >>> joel.l.carruth at lmco.com <mailto:joel.l.carruth at lmco.com> writes:
>> >>>
>> >>> Also, it seems like it would be easier to manage the radio
>> >>> stack (dual
>> >>> COMMM/NAVs, a GPS, and a xpdr) with your right hand free...
>> >>> especially
>> >>> flying IFR.
>> >>>
>> >>> That's why most helicopters fly PIC from the right.
>> >>> TEC
>> >>
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