REFLECTOR: Yoke vs. Stick

Wed Dec 1 20:15:50 CST 2004

There ya go!!!  Not a defective design at all.  I put an elevator trim next
to the throttle( in addition to the stick mounted HAT).  Between the trim,
throttle and rudders, you really don't need to choke the "poorly" placed
center stick while working the radios.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Scharfenberg" <dave at winco.net>
To: "Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list" <reflector at tvbf.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Yoke vs. Stick

> Personally, I love the center stick design.  I can't think of a more
> comfortable way to fly.  While looking through the wiring diagrams for my
> King radios, I saw the option for the remote flip/flops on both the nav
and
> coms.  It's a simple matter of running a wire from the back of the radio
and
> switching it to ground.  I put the remote flip/flop push buttons on my
left
> hand console along with the remote ident button.  I also installed a
remote
> memory scroll button in the same area.  If things get busy, I can scroll
> through up to 10 frequencies in the stand-by window and then flip/flop to
> active.
>
> Dave Scharfenberg
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> on 12/1/04 7:54 AM, Scott Derrick at scott at tnstaafl.net wrote:
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> > I don't think its the stick-handeness.  Adjusting to left or right stick
> > takes 5 minutes tops.
> >
> > In an EZ with a right stick, the panel is on the left, everything within
> > easy reach of your left hand.
> >
> > In a Cozy same thing for the left or right seat if it has dual sticks
like
> > a Cirrus.
> >
> >
> > Scenario in my Velocity:  I'm tracking the glideslope down, hand
> > flying,  Approach says "contact tower"..  I now have to (1) reach across
> > with my left hand and dial/switch the radio, (2)  let go of the stick
and
> > switch with my right hand.
> >
> > Either way is not ergonomic. The center stick does not promote safe
> > operation of the airplane..  Its a fubar situation any way you do it.
> >
> > The center stick, while easy to engineer and fabricate is one of the
> > Velocities weak operational points.  Like I said, its a shame the
factory
> > wasted their time designing a dual yoke system, when they could have
done a
> > dual stick like the Cirrus....  Scott, YOU LISTENING???
> >
> > That said I still prefer it over a yoke, because of comfort and less
stress
> > on long flights, which does promote safety.  It cuts both ways.
> >
> > Scott
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> > At 09:49 PM 11/30/2004, you wrote:
> >> EZ has right stick, left throttle.  Cozy has left stick, right
> >> throttle.  Nobody seems to have a problem going back and forth from one
to
> >> the other.
> >> Jim S.
> >>
> >>
> >> Ronnie Brown wrote:
> >>
> >>> I have seen several RV's set up this way.  Pilot and instruments on
the
> >>> right side so they could fly it like a cub or champ, stick in right
hand,
> >>> throttle in left hand.  I considered doing the same thing, but decided
I
> >>> didn't want to build another panel - mirrored from the standard panel.
I
> >>> had 800 hours in a C172 and I thought the opposite throttle and
controls
> >>> would be a problem - but not.
> >>>
> >>> I have flown my plane 150 hours which includes a good bit of IMC and
it
> >>> turns out to be a non issue.  The Velocity is so steady it is easy to
fly
> >>> it hands off, or using my left hand on the stick and right hand for
the
> >>> radios.  Turn the Navaid autopilot on and it is really easy.
> >>> Copying clearances is a non problem too.  Ronnie
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> *From:* HYTEC45 at aol.com <mailto:HYTEC45 at aol.com>
> >>> *To:* reflector at tvbf.org <mailto:reflector at tvbf.org>
> >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 30, 2004 6:06 PM
> >>> *Subject:* Re: REFLECTOR: Yoke vs. Stick
> >>>
> >>> In a message dated 11/30/2004 2:30:20 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> >>> joel.l.carruth at lmco.com <mailto:joel.l.carruth at lmco.com> writes:
> >>>
> >>> Also, it seems like it would be easier to manage the radio
> >>> stack (dual
> >>> COMMM/NAVs, a GPS, and a xpdr) with your right hand free...
> >>> especially
> >>> flying IFR.
> >>>
> >>> That's why most helicopters fly PIC from the right.
> >>> TEC
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