REFLECTOR: Yoke vs. Stick

Wed Dec 1 12:39:52 CST 2004

My plane came with the yoke (the last SUV, I think, but I have added the
second door, so now an SE).  I have no real desire to switch from the yoke
(even though I think a $1000.00 premium for what many do not consider an
upgrade is hurting more than helping). I too like the idea of flying left
and fiddling right. The loss of panel area is very secondary to me (even
though with the yoke, the big Blue Mountain would probably not fit but that
is ok since the Blue Mountain is not in my budget <g>)

Now, that being said, I do like the idea of a left side stick like the
Cirrus.  I spoke with Brandon and he stated it was considered but due to the
slope of the fuselage the left stick would require too many components and
loose the simplicity advantage.  I think he mentioned it could be done, but
you would have to use u-joints etc which cause some slop in their test.  WAY
down the road and well after I start flying, I would give serious
consideration to a modification to a left side stick.  BTW, a while back
someone posted pictures of a left side stick.  It was only partially in the
picture since the picture was of the panel. At the time others expressed
interest in the left side stick and hoped more pix of it would be uploaded,
but none ever were.  FWIW.

All the best,

Chris

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-----Original Message-----
From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org]On
Behalf Of Scott Derrick
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 12:17 PM
To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Yoke vs. Stick

Sorry TEC,  I read your comment

I quote "Also, ever tried to "relieve" yourself with a yoke in the
way?  Come to think of it; never mind."

and assumed you thought I was proposing that a yoke would be better.  A
couple other people implied the same thing in their reply and  guess I
lumped you in with them..

I think I stated numerous times I much prefer the stick over a yoke,  I
just think a center stick is bad engineering compared with a side stick.

As to mounting the radio stack on the left.  That's seems like an odd
solution to the problem of a center stick, but I guess it works as long as
your in the left seat!

Since we have 2 front seats I think the plane is much more useful if both
left and right seats can reach most if not all the controls, isn't that the
norm for most modern airplanes??  I realize there are some old planes with
horrendous placement of radios and instruments but I thought we were trying
to correct the mistakes of the past...  I thought that was the thinking
behind the center stack??? Easily reached from either seat.

Scott

At 10:45 AM 12/1/2004, you wrote:
>In a message dated 12/1/2004 9:12:34 AM Pacific Standard Time,
>scott at tnstaafl.net writes:
>Do people actually read these posting??  Or is it a comprehension thing...
>
>I never said I wanted to switch to a yoke,  In fact I said quite the
>opposite..
>
>Sure "You should" have the next freq tuned in ready to go,  ever been given
>a different freq than you thought you would?  I have.  Ever been real busy
>and just didn't get to that yet? I have.
>
>Even if you do have it tuned it, you still have to reach across your body
>or let go of the stick to switch freqs..  And that's a bad movement.
>
>Hay; do you even read your own post?? In your senerio;
>
> >Scenario in my Velocity:  I'm tracking the glideslope down, hand
> >flying,  Approach says "contact tower"..  I now have to (1) reach across
> >with my left hand and dial/switch the radio, (2)  let go of the stick and
> >switch with my right hand
>
>That is what I was responding to and that only.  I saw this radio problem
>in 89 when I started building my Velocity.  As a commercial helicopter
>pilot I and am quite familiar with reaching.  That is why I mounted all my
>radios (Terra) single stack on the LEFT side of the six-pack along with
>the nav. heads.  I have had no reaching in the 10 years I have been flying
it.
>
>I suggest before you start flaming people, read your own posts that are
>being respond to.  How many of these scenarios in your Velocity have you
>had that were unmanageable?
>
>TEC
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