REFLECTOR:Grove brakes.

Fred Marconi reflector@tvbf.org
Wed, 28 Apr 2004 23:39:52 -0400


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  I understand that they are the same as Clevelands. =20

  Fred


    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Jim Sower=20
    To: reflector@tvbf.org=20
    Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 1:07 AM
    Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Grove brakes.


    I used to have soft brakes.  Wore out pads pretty quickly.  Noticed =
that pads did not wear in a neat, tidy symmetrical way, but ended up =
wedge shaped.  Inspected really REALLY close with someone else pumping =
the brakes and found the caliper binding on the gear leg just a little.  =
Ground off a little glass and the soft brakes are gone, the pads have =
lasted ever since.=20
    Check carefully for strange caliper motion ... Jim S.=20
    PUSHERPILOT@wmconnect.com wrote:=20

      I posted my brake problems on the reflector last October and =
received several good suggestions.  None have worked so far and I still =
have a soft pedal.  To quantify that, the pedal will move about an inch =
after the pads contact the disc.  The airplane is ready to fly so today =
a friend and I made one more attempt to solve the problem.  We =
disconnected the brake line at the caliper and capped it.  This gave a =
good hard pedal so we decided to bench bleed the caliper.  Following the =
suggestions, we tapped, rotated and oriented the caliper so that the =
outlets between pistons were on top and on and on.  NO bubbles.  I give =
up!  I'll buy new brakes.=20
      Several people on the canard aviator website have recommended =
Grove brakes over Clevelands.  Is any one on the Reflector familiar with =
Grove?  Velocity?  Your comments please.  Also, can you tell me what =
Cleveland model is a bolt on for the standard RG.=20
      Thanks,=20
      Mel Bina  SDT  RG

    --=20
    Jim Sower ... Destiny's Plaything=20
    Crossville, TN; Chapter 5=20
    Long-EZ N83RT, Velocity N4095T=20
     =20


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  <DIV><FONT size=3D2>I understand that they are the same as =
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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    brakes.</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>I used to have soft brakes.&nbsp; Wore out pads =
pretty=20
    quickly.&nbsp; Noticed that pads did not wear in a neat, tidy =
symmetrical=20
    way, but ended up wedge shaped.&nbsp; Inspected really REALLY close =
with=20
    someone else pumping the brakes and found the caliper binding on the =
gear=20
    leg just a little.&nbsp; Ground off a little glass and the soft =
brakes are=20
    gone, the pads have lasted ever since. <BR>Check carefully for =
strange=20
    caliper motion ... Jim S.=20
    <P>PUSHERPILOT@wmconnect.com wrote:=20
    <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D"CITE"><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT =
size=3D-1>I posted=20
      my brake problems on the reflector last October and received =
several good=20
      suggestions.&nbsp; None have worked so far and I still have a soft =

      pedal.&nbsp; To quantify that, the pedal will move about an inch =
after the=20
      pads contact the disc.&nbsp; The airplane is ready to fly so today =
a=20
      friend and I made one more attempt to solve the problem.&nbsp; We=20
      disconnected the brake line at the caliper and capped it.&nbsp; =
This gave=20
      a good hard pedal so we decided to bench bleed the caliper.&nbsp;=20
      Following the suggestions, we tapped, rotated and oriented the =
caliper so=20
      that the outlets between pistons were on top and on and on.&nbsp; =
NO=20
      bubbles.&nbsp; I give up!&nbsp; I'll buy new brakes.</FONT></FONT> =

      <P><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT size=3D-1>Several people on =
the canard=20
      aviator website have recommended Grove brakes over =
Clevelands.&nbsp; Is=20
      any one on the Reflector familiar with Grove?&nbsp; =
Velocity?&nbsp; Your=20
      comments please.&nbsp; Also, can you tell me what Cleveland model =
is a=20
      bolt on for the standard RG.</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT=20
      face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT size=3D-1>Thanks,</FONT></FONT> =
<BR><FONT=20
      face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT size=3D-1>Mel Bina&nbsp; SDT&nbsp;=20
      RG</FONT></FONT></P></BLOCKQUOTE>
    <P>-- <BR>Jim Sower ... Destiny's Plaything <BR>Crossville, TN; =
Chapter 5=20
    <BR>Long-EZ N83RT, Velocity N4095T <BR>&nbsp; =
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