REFLECTOR:Velocity busts Presidential TFR

Milton Merskey reflector@tvbf.org
Thu, 22 Apr 2004 08:43:10 -0500


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wayne" <wowens@darientel.net>
To: <reflector@tvbf.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 8:06 AM
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Velocity busts Presidential TFR


> Again I apologize for political comments here.
> Wayne
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "CanardAv8r_DWT-AGT_TFS- Inc" <showme177rg@hotmail.com>
> To: <reflector@tvbf.org>
> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 8:34 AM
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Velocity busts Presidential TFR
>
>
> > Can we get back to being a aviation forum & a GOOD one at that ? ! ?
> The
> > political comments have zip biz being here.  I've bit my tongue seeing
the
> > comments directed @ John Ashcroft.  Being from Missouri, I'm not only
> > acquainted w/him - but a good friend as my bro-in-law was his campaign
> mgr.
> > for 3 successful campaigns.  I don't know if I've ever found a better,
> > principled soul,


He m,ay be a  principled soul, but I , for one, object to him wiping his ass
with the Bill of Rights.

Milt


 than this man.  John is a pilot -&- a good one & beleive
> it
> > or not a friend to all aviators !  I think I can safely speculate & say
> that
> > if he ever had a crash - fatal -or- otherwise, he -or- his heirs would
NOT
> > come back & SUE, especially after the involved mfg's  parts/systems had
> been
> > proven "operative" after-the-fact. 2 Words come to mind:
Parker-Hannifan.
> I
> > have lotsa insight re: some other politicians that I'll not post here -
> > won't do a bit of good - I know I won't sway you in your opinion &
> > versa-vica !
> >
> > A lot of the "old timers" here have been run off from the incessant
> > back-biting & holier-than-thou attitudes sometimes expressed here, re:
> > building; flying experiences; etc.....  I miss their insight &
experiences
> > that benefit us all.
> >
> > DW Taylor
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Remember, friends don't let friends fly aluminum airplanes !
> >
> >      \
> >       \  \
> >      8>>>>>       DW  Taylor
> >       /  /
> >      /
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Wayne" <wowens@darientel.net>
> > >Reply-To: reflector@tvbf.org
> > >To: <reflector@tvbf.org>
> > >Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Velocity busts Presidential TFR
> > >Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 22:53:21 -0400
> > >
> > >I apologize  I meant to put that in my drafts folder and blow off  a
> little
> > >steam. This forum is for aircraft builders and I should not have
> responded
> > >here.
> > >Wayne
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Shawn Penning" <penningsp@hotmail.com>
> > >To: <reflector@tvbf.org>
> > >Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 10:17 PM
> > >Subject: RE: REFLECTOR:Velocity busts Presidential TFR
> > >
> > >
> > > > What scares me is that I read at least 2 posts from Liberals who
want
> to
> > > > vote for more government.  Hey you liberals, have you seen what your
> > >buddy
> > > > in Chicago did to Miggs?
> > > >
> > > > Shawn
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: Chuck Jensen <cjensen@dts9000.com>
> > > > >Reply-To: reflector@tvbf.org
> > > > >To: "'reflector@tvbf.org'" <reflector@tvbf.org>
> > > > >Subject: RE: REFLECTOR:Velocity busts Presidential TFR
> > > > >Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 15:33:08 -0400
> > > > >
> > > > >Isn't this quite the system.  The more arrogant, obnoxious,
> infallible,
> > > > >vindictive, self-important, bureaucratic and autocratic an
> organization
> > >is,
> > > > >the more "polite" we have to treat them so that they don't give us
> the
> > > > >full-Monty.
> > > > >
> > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > >From: reflector-admin@tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]On
> > >Behalf
> > > > >Of
> > > > >OddJ@aol.com
> > > > >Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 2:02 PM
> > > > >To: reflector@tvbf.org
> > > > >Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Velocity busts Presidential TFR
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Dennis,
> > > > >Be very careful with your response. There are several bureaucratic
> > >layers
> > > > >(all infallible and VERY vindictive) between whoever/whatever
> > >"observed"
> > > > >you
> > > > >and the FAA.
> > > > >FAA was probably receiving the info second/third/fourth hand.
> > > > >At Sun'n Fun there was a booth manned by Florida Air National Guard
> > >(FANG)
> > > > >where a detailed description of intercepts and response routines
were
> > > > >"explained". I don't know who has the reponsibility in Texas, but
in
> > > > >Florida
> > > > >it is FANG. They scramble F16s or F15s. The F15s don't even have
VHF
> > >thus
> > > > >cannot communicate on 121.5, but..., the major proudly stated, a
> blast
> > >from
> > > > >the afterburners will get your attention instead.
> > > > >If I were you I would write a polite, no sarcasm, letter back to
FAA
> > > > >explaining the reason for why it was not you and requesting a
written
> > > > >confirmation that no harm will come your way. I would also send a
> copy
> > >of
> > > > >the FAA letter and your response to AOPA (for information only, no
> > >action
> > > > >required for now).
> > > > >My guess is that you will never know who "observed" you. Pursuing
it
> > >may
> > > > >only get you onto the NO FLY LIST, and TSA is never wrong.
> > > > >
> > > > >Hope it works out for you. Please keep us posted.
> > > > >
> > > > >Best regards,
> > > > >Odd   N190J  XL/RG
> > > > >
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