REFLECTOR:Velocity busts Presidential TFR

Wayne reflector@tvbf.org
Thu, 22 Apr 2004 09:06:57 -0400


Again I apologize for political comments here.
Wayne
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "CanardAv8r_DWT-AGT_TFS- Inc" <showme177rg@hotmail.com>
To: <reflector@tvbf.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Velocity busts Presidential TFR


> Can we get back to being a aviation forum & a GOOD one at that ? ! ?
The
> political comments have zip biz being here.  I've bit my tongue seeing the
> comments directed @ John Ashcroft.  Being from Missouri, I'm not only
> acquainted w/him - but a good friend as my bro-in-law was his campaign
mgr.
> for 3 successful campaigns.  I don't know if I've ever found a better,
> principled soul, than this man.  John is a pilot -&- a good one & beleive
it
> or not a friend to all aviators !  I think I can safely speculate & say
that
> if he ever had a crash - fatal -or- otherwise, he -or- his heirs would NOT
> come back & SUE, especially after the involved mfg's  parts/systems had
been
> proven "operative" after-the-fact. 2 Words come to mind: Parker-Hannifan.
I
> have lotsa insight re: some other politicians that I'll not post here -
> won't do a bit of good - I know I won't sway you in your opinion &
> versa-vica !
>
> A lot of the "old timers" here have been run off from the incessant
> back-biting & holier-than-thou attitudes sometimes expressed here, re:
> building; flying experiences; etc.....  I miss their insight & experiences
> that benefit us all.
>
> DW Taylor
>
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>
> Remember, friends don't let friends fly aluminum airplanes !
>
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> >From: "Wayne" <wowens@darientel.net>
> >Reply-To: reflector@tvbf.org
> >To: <reflector@tvbf.org>
> >Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Velocity busts Presidential TFR
> >Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 22:53:21 -0400
> >
> >I apologize  I meant to put that in my drafts folder and blow off  a
little
> >steam. This forum is for aircraft builders and I should not have
responded
> >here.
> >Wayne
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Shawn Penning" <penningsp@hotmail.com>
> >To: <reflector@tvbf.org>
> >Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 10:17 PM
> >Subject: RE: REFLECTOR:Velocity busts Presidential TFR
> >
> >
> > > What scares me is that I read at least 2 posts from Liberals who want
to
> > > vote for more government.  Hey you liberals, have you seen what your
> >buddy
> > > in Chicago did to Miggs?
> > >
> > > Shawn
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: Chuck Jensen <cjensen@dts9000.com>
> > > >Reply-To: reflector@tvbf.org
> > > >To: "'reflector@tvbf.org'" <reflector@tvbf.org>
> > > >Subject: RE: REFLECTOR:Velocity busts Presidential TFR
> > > >Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 15:33:08 -0400
> > > >
> > > >Isn't this quite the system.  The more arrogant, obnoxious,
infallible,
> > > >vindictive, self-important, bureaucratic and autocratic an
organization
> >is,
> > > >the more "polite" we have to treat them so that they don't give us
the
> > > >full-Monty.
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: reflector-admin@tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]On
> >Behalf
> > > >Of
> > > >OddJ@aol.com
> > > >Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 2:02 PM
> > > >To: reflector@tvbf.org
> > > >Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Velocity busts Presidential TFR
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Dennis,
> > > >Be very careful with your response. There are several bureaucratic
> >layers
> > > >(all infallible and VERY vindictive) between whoever/whatever
> >"observed"
> > > >you
> > > >and the FAA.
> > > >FAA was probably receiving the info second/third/fourth hand.
> > > >At Sun'n Fun there was a booth manned by Florida Air National Guard
> >(FANG)
> > > >where a detailed description of intercepts and response routines were
> > > >"explained". I don't know who has the reponsibility in Texas, but in
> > > >Florida
> > > >it is FANG. They scramble F16s or F15s. The F15s don't even have VHF
> >thus
> > > >cannot communicate on 121.5, but..., the major proudly stated, a
blast
> >from
> > > >the afterburners will get your attention instead.
> > > >If I were you I would write a polite, no sarcasm, letter back to FAA
> > > >explaining the reason for why it was not you and requesting a written
> > > >confirmation that no harm will come your way. I would also send a
copy
> >of
> > > >the FAA letter and your response to AOPA (for information only, no
> >action
> > > >required for now).
> > > >My guess is that you will never know who "observed" you. Pursuing it
> >may
> > > >only get you onto the NO FLY LIST, and TSA is never wrong.
> > > >
> > > >Hope it works out for you. Please keep us posted.
> > > >
> > > >Best regards,
> > > >Odd   N190J  XL/RG
> > > >
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