REFLECTOR:Velocity busts Presidential TFR

Chuck Jensen reflector@tvbf.org
Wed, 21 Apr 2004 15:33:08 -0400


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Isn't this quite the system.  The more arrogant, obnoxious, infallible,
vindictive, self-important, bureaucratic and autocratic an organization is,
the more "polite" we have to treat them so that they don't give us the
full-Monty.

-----Original Message-----
From: reflector-admin@tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]On Behalf Of
OddJ@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 2:02 PM
To: reflector@tvbf.org
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Velocity busts Presidential TFR


Dennis,
Be very careful with your response. There are several bureaucratic layers
(all infallible and VERY vindictive) between whoever/whatever "observed" you
and the FAA.
FAA was probably receiving the info second/third/fourth hand.
At Sun'n Fun there was a booth manned by Florida Air National Guard  (FANG)
where a detailed description of intercepts and response routines were
"explained". I don't know who has the reponsibility in Texas, but in Florida
it is FANG. They scramble F16s or F15s. The F15s don't even have VHF thus
cannot communicate on 121.5, but..., the major proudly stated, a blast from
the afterburners will get your attention instead.
If I were you I would write a polite, no sarcasm, letter back to FAA
explaining the reason for why it was not you and requesting a written
confirmation that no harm will come your way. I would also send a copy of
the FAA letter and your response to AOPA (for information only, no action
required for now).
My guess is that you will never know who "observed" you. Pursuing it may
only get you onto the NO FLY LIST, and TSA is never wrong.

Hope it works out for you. Please keep us posted.

Best regards,
Odd   N190J  XL/RG 


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<DIV><SPAN class=437432219-21042004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Isn't 
this quite the system.&nbsp; The more arrogant, obnoxious, infallible, 
vindictive, self-important, bureaucratic and autocratic&nbsp;an organization is, 
the more "polite" we have to treat them so that they don't give us the 
full-Monty.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma 
  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> reflector-admin@tvbf.org 
  [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]<B>On Behalf Of 
  </B>OddJ@aol.com<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, April 21, 2004 2:02 
  PM<BR><B>To:</B> reflector@tvbf.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: REFLECTOR:Velocity 
  busts Presidential TFR<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT 
  lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face=Arial size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" 
  PTSIZE="10" BACK="#ffffff">Dennis,<BR>Be very careful with your response. 
  There are several bureaucratic layers (all infallible and VERY vindictive) 
  between whoever/whatever "observed" you and the FAA.<BR>FAA was probably 
  receiving the info second/third/fourth hand.<BR>At Sun'n Fun there was a booth 
  manned by Florida Air National Guard&nbsp; (FANG) where a detailed description 
  of intercepts and response routines were "explained". I don't know who has the 
  reponsibility in Texas, but in Florida it is FANG. They scramble F16s or F15s. 
  The F15s don't even have VHF thus cannot communicate on 121.5, but..., the 
  major proudly stated, a blast from the afterburners will get your attention 
  instead.<BR>If I were you I would write a polite, no sarcasm, letter back to 
  FAA explaining the reason for why it was not you and requesting a written 
  confirmation that no harm will come your way. I would also send a copy of the 
  FAA letter and your response to AOPA (for information only, no action required 
  for now).<BR>My guess is that you will never know who "observed" you. Pursuing 
  it may only get you onto the NO FLY LIST, and TSA is never wrong.<BR><BR>Hope 
  it works out for you. Please keep us posted.<BR><BR>Best 
  regards,<BR>Odd&nbsp;&nbsp; N190J&nbsp; XL/RG</FONT> 
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