Ronnie, I tried to go to the Velocity site and I need a user name and password. How do I get that? Also I wasn't able to access the KPCs on the second site. John The KPC's are already at www.Velocityaircraft.com/manuals/ Bob Hugel also collected these KPC's and sorted them by model. See http://www.lehightechnology.com/velocity/list_kpc.asp