REFLECTOR:Fw: [Canards] Sun and Fun Pics

Christopher Barber reflector@tvbf.org
Mon, 19 Apr 2004 12:47:44 -0500


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Thanks for the additional heads up. Agreed, I would prefer not to use the
templates.  I just don't know of a realistic option.  Even though I love the
photos, SWMBO, nor the City of Houston and homeowners assoc, would not be
amused. She already "expresses concern" (yes, that is a euphemism) about
fiberglass and micro dust getting in the house (her babysitting 7 dogs,
however, is GOOD for the house...and the way it smells <g>.  Her hobby is
showing dogs).

Actually, that is one of the things I wished to discuss with Velocity.  I am
on the end of a slow moving list of 15 waiting for the privilege to pay
$350.00 a month for a hanger.  But the reality is, I like working in my
garage and feel I get WAAAAY more done having my "hanger" in my garage and
just off the kitchen. I will routinely go out and check a lay-up at 1 or 2
am and/or pull off peel ply before I go to work.

One of the web pages showed bolting the templates (via a jig) into the
concrete floor.  But, I did not see anything in the plans about that, so I
was hoping for some insight from the factory folks.

Ok, finally a real question.  How long do I need to have the wings on?  I
can roll the plane to the driveway, but could only leave it overnight if I
sleep in the garage. (I live in and love Houston, but you do NOT leave
things "out"......nor sticking out). Could it be realistic to mount the
wings in the morning and remove them that night or the next day???  Even if
possible, seems like it would be a real pain.
I may be able to squeeze a wing on, but, again, how long would this be
needed. I may be able to handle Jana if it were only a relatively short
period (that is if I could even make it fit.)  Also, does having just one
wing mounted effect the process since it is uneven?

I was able to make good use of the beautiful weekend. I went flying <g> and
did some "repair building". I still have one minor project (glassing in the
dog house) before I figure out how to get my plane into the garage with a
wing on it (a shoe horn?). Even if possible, it would block access to the
freezer, washer and dryer.....this too would not amuse Jana.....or, give in,
and make the templates......I did just receive some more Velocipoxy....so, I
am ready to add micro <g>.

Thanks again. I will be in deep contemplation.

All the best,

Chris


Christopher Barber

Attorney and Counselor at Law



"Serving the needs of Senior Texans"

Barber Law Firm
11930 S Sam Houston Pkwy E
Suite 103
Houston, Texas 77089-4755
281-464-LAWS (5297)


CBarber@TexasAttorney.net
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  -----Original Message-----
  From: reflector-admin@tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]On Behalf
Of Alex Balic
  Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 4:27 PM
  To: reflector@tvbf.org
  Subject: RE: REFLECTOR:Fw: [Canards] Sun and Fun Pics


  Chris-
  Please tell me that you are going to build the strakes with the wings
attached, and not with the factory supplied "templates"  (er, I mean random
strake leading edge positioning devices)    if you do use the templates, be
sure to order about another cubic foot of filler to fix the mismatch between
the resulting strake leading edges and the wings.... Just FYI, been there,
already paid the price....


  Alex
    -----Original Message-----
    From: reflector-admin@tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]On
Behalf Of CBarber
    Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 10:46 PM
    To: reflector@tvbf.org
    Subject: RE: REFLECTOR:Fw: [Canards] Sun and Fun Pics


    Thanks for the pix.

    Ok, now a really quick rant/vent. I am all for fun and business
opportunity at Sun & Fun, but I am mildly annoyed that no body was left back
a Sebastian to be able address my technical questions and will not be back
'till the 20th. Dang it, I am about to start the dreaded STRAKES. It should
be perfect weekend weather for building here in Houston, mid 70, LOW
humidity and sunny and I am gonna be nervous starting this next big project
without Branden's comforting words of support.....like the 411 on the PITA
strake templates.  Thanks for the vent. :-)

    All the best,

    Chris




    Christopher Barber

    Attorney and Counselor at Law



    "Serving the needs of Senior Texans"

    Barber Law Firm
    11930 S Sam Houston Pkwy E
    Suite 103
    Houston, Texas 77089-4755
    281-464-LAWS (5297)


    CBarber@TexasAttorney.net
    www.TexasAttorney.net





      -----Original Message-----
      From: reflector-admin@tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]On
Behalf Of Ronnie Brown
      Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 9:20 PM
      To: reflector@tvbf.org
      Subject: REFLECTOR:Fw: [Canards] Sun and Fun Pics



      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Terry Lamp
      To: Canards@tnstaafl.net ; Canard Aviators
      Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 9:22 PM
      Subject: [Canards] Sun and Fun Pics


      Just back from S-N-F and thought I'd share a couple of pics.

      Had to wait for the ice to melt off the plane this morning!!!

      Quit a blow came through Monday night as you'll see.

      Volunteered 30 hours in the 4 days we were there. It was a great time.

      Terry
      N977JT


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"expresses=20
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D955351217-19042004><FONT =
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2><SPAN class=3D955351217-19042004>Actually, that is =
one of the=20
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moving list of 15 waiting for the privilege to pay $350.00 a month for a =

hanger.&nbsp; But the reality is, I like working in my garage =
and&nbsp;feel I=20
get WAAAAY more done having my "hanger" in my garage and just off the=20
kitchen.</SPAN>&nbsp;<SPAN class=3D955351217-19042004>I will routinely =
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2><SPAN class=3D955351217-19042004>One of the web =
pages showed=20
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2><SPAN =
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2><SPAN class=3D955351217-19042004>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><SPAN class=3D955351217-19042004>Ok, finally a real=20
question.&nbsp; How long do I need to have the wings on?&nbsp; I can =
roll the=20
plane to the driveway, but could only leave it overnight if I sleep in =
the=20
garage. (I live in and love Houston, but you do NOT leave things =
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2><SPAN class=3D955351217-19042004>I may be able to =
squeeze a wing=20
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Jana if=20
it were only a relatively short period (that is if I could even make it =
fit.)=20
&nbsp;Also, does having just one wing mounted effect the process since =
it is=20
uneven?</SPAN></FONT></DIV></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><SPAN =
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2><SPAN class=3D955351217-19042004>I was able to make =
good use of=20
the beautiful weekend. I went flying &lt;g&gt; and did some "repair =
building". I=20
still have one minor project (glassing in the dog house) before I figure =
out how=20
to get my plane into the garage with a wing on it (a shoe horn?). Even =
if=20
possible, it would block access to the freezer, washer and =
dryer.....this too=20
would not amuse Jana.....or, give in, and make the templates......I did =
just=20
receive some more Velocipoxy....so, I am ready to add micro=20
&lt;g&gt;.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D955351217-19042004></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><SPAN class=3D955351217-19042004>Thanks again. I =
will be in deep=20
contemplation.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D955351217-19042004></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><SPAN class=3D955351217-19042004>All the=20
best,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D955351217-19042004></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D955351217-19042004>Chris</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D955351217-19042004></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Alex=20
  Balic<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, April 17, 2004 4:27 PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
  reflector@tvbf.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: REFLECTOR:Fw: [Canards] Sun =
and Fun=20
  Pics<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D198072421-17042004><FONT =
size=3D2>Chris-</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D198072421-17042004><FONT size=3D2>Please tell me =
that you are=20
  going to build the strakes with the wings attached, and not with the =
factory=20
  supplied "templates"&nbsp; (er, I mean random strake leading edge =
positioning=20
  devices)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; if you do use the templates, be sure to =
order about=20
  another cubic foot of filler to fix the mismatch between the resulting =
strake=20
  leading edges and the wings.... Just FYI, been there, already paid the =

  price....</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D198072421-17042004><FONT =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D198072421-17042004><FONT =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D198072421-17042004><FONT =
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    size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =
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    [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]<B>On Behalf Of =
</B>CBarber<BR><B>Sent:</B>=20
    Thursday, April 15, 2004 10:46 PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
    reflector@tvbf.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: REFLECTOR:Fw: [Canards] =
Sun and=20
    Fun Pics<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D571113704-16042004><FONT size=3D2>Thanks for the=20
    pix.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D571113704-16042004><FONT =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D571113704-16042004><FONT size=3D2>Ok, now a =
really quick=20
    rant/vent. I am all for fun and business opportunity at Sun &amp; =
Fun, but I=20
    am mildly annoyed that no body was left back a Sebastian to be able=20
    address&nbsp;my technical questions and will not be back 'till the =
20th.=20
    Dang it, I am about to start the dreaded STRAKES. It should be =
perfect=20
    weekend weather for building here in Houston, mid 70, LOW humidity =
and sunny=20
    and I am gonna be nervous starting this next big project without =
Branden's=20
    comforting words of support.....like the 411 on the PITA strake=20
    templates.&nbsp; Thanks for the vent. :-)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D571113704-16042004><FONT =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D571113704-16042004><FONT size=3D2>All the=20
    best,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
    <DIV><SPAN class=3D571113704-16042004><FONT =
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    <DIV><SPAN class=3D571113704-16042004><FONT =
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      size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =
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      [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Ronnie=20
      Brown<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, April 15, 2004 9:20 =
PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
      reflector@tvbf.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> REFLECTOR:Fw: [Canards] Sun =
and Fun=20
      Pics<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
      <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> =
<A=20
      title=3Dtlamp@columbus.rr.com =
href=3D"mailto:tlamp@columbus.rr.com">Terry=20
      Lamp</A> </DIV>
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      href=3D"mailto:Canards@tnstaafl.net">Canards@tnstaafl.net</A> ; <A =

      title=3Dcanard-aviators@yahoogroups.com=20
      href=3D"mailto:canard-aviators@yahoogroups.com">Canard =
Aviators</A> </DIV>
      <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, April 15, 2004 9:22 PM</DIV>
      <DIV><B>Subject:</B> [Canards] Sun and Fun Pics</DIV></DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV><LABEL id=3DHbSession =
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      <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Just back from S-N-F and thought I'd share a =
couple of=20
      pics.</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Had to wait for the ice to melt off the plane =
this=20
      morning!!!</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Quit a blow came through Monday night as =
you'll=20
      see.</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Volunteered 30 hours in the 4 days we were =
there. It was=20
      a great time.</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Terry</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT size=3D2>N977JT</FONT></DIV>
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