REFLECTOR:Jeffco and strakes

Fred Marconi reflector@tvbf.org
Mon, 19 Apr 2004 01:36:39 -0400


  Alex,  I do not know what your tank looks like, but mine was very
intricate and I was able to reach all spots.  I have an XL and the wheel
well made some areas difficult but NOT unreachable.  I just cannot imagine
not been able to reach all areas of the tank.  So far after 35 hours I have
not developed any leaks.

  Fred

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Alex Balic" <alex157@direcway.com>
  To: <reflector@tvbf.org>
  Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 10:02 PM
  Subject: RE: REFLECTOR:Jeffco and strakes


  > except that you can sand all of these surfaces before installation
because
  > they are flat sheets, after installation, there are nooks and crannies
that
  > will remain glossy with structural resin when you overcoat with the
Jeffco,
  > these were my areas of interest.
  >
  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: reflector-admin@tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]On
  > Behalf Of Fred Marconi
  > Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 6:16 PM
  > To: reflector@tvbf.org
  > Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Jeffco and strakes
  >
  >
  >   Structural adhesive is what is used for the bid that supports the
baffles,
  > the cloth that is put on the foam over the inside and outside of the
strake.
  > So what they say does not make sence.
  >
  >
  >   ----- Original Message -----
  >   From: "Alex Balic" <alex157@direcway.com>
  >   To: <reflector@tvbf.org>
  >   Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 12:29 PM
  >   Subject: RE: REFLECTOR:Jeffco and strakes
  >
  >
  >   > The only problem here is that I asked the Jeffco folks about this,
and
  > maybe
  >   > they were just trying to have me use more of their product, but they
  > said
  >   > that they could not guarantee the adhesion between their product and
the
  >   > Velocity structural resin, I am pretty sure that it is fine- so many
  > people
  >   > doing it that way and all, but I didn't want to have any problems,
  >   > especially in those narrow inside corners that were impossible to
rough
  > up
  >   > with the sandpaper between coats- I used 3 coats total and really,
the
  >   > pinholes were gone after the second coat, but I did stay with it
until
  > it
  >   > hardened and kept dappling the bubbles out.  The natural surface of
the
  >   > inside of the strakes was pretty rough already from the release
cloth so
  > I
  >   > didn't worry about that too much, and I was able to sand all of it
  > before
  >   > attaching anything to them anyway.
  >   >
  >   > -----Original Message-----
  >   > From: reflector-admin@tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]On
  >   > Behalf Of Fred Marconi
  >   > Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 8:19 AM
  >   > To: reflector@tvbf.org
  >   > Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Jeffco and strakes
  >   >
  >   >
  >   >   Scott's suggestiuon of using structural epoxy first, the same
  > procedure
  >   > used to coat the sump tank, is a very good idea.  It saves you on
Jeffco
  >   > because it will seal the porosities better.  Make sure that when you
  > coat
  >   > the tanks you do it at a time when the temperatures are cool.  The
foam
  >   > tends to breathe, and when you coat the strake with Jeffco if the
  >   > temperature warms up after placement the air inside the foam cells
will
  >   > expand and leave a pin whole in the coating.  I coated my strakes in
the
  >   > late evening knowing that the tempreatures would get colder as the
  > material
  >   > set up.  It would be a good idea that after you coat the strake with
the
  >   > structural adheasive you lightly scuff it before applying the
Jeffco.
  > The
  >   > suggestion made to seal the upper strake with a mix of jeffco and
  > cav-o-seal
  >   > and mill fiber is great.   It surely worked for me.
  >   >
  >   >   Let me sugggest that before you seal the tanks you go over it
several
  >   > times with a clean reag and alcohol.  Make sure that it is spotless
  > before
  >   > you seal it.  My fuel filter bearly picked up any sedimets.  When
ever I
  > did
  >   > anything and the fuel cap was open I stuck a vacuum hole in the tank
and
  >   > made sure I suctioned around the bottom.
  >   >
  >   >   Fred
  >   >   N244FM
  >   >
  >   >   ----- Original Message -----
  >   >   From: "Scott Baker" <sbakr@comcast.net>
  >   >   To: <reflector@tvbf.org>
  >   >   Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 7:00 AM
  >   >   Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Jeffco and strakes
  >   >
  >   >
  >   >   > Natalie has 1-gallon kits with the slow hardener.  I tend to use
a
  > lot
  >   > ...
  >   >   > 3-gallons would be my recommendation.  The folks in the service
  > center
  >   > use
  >   >   > the structural epoxy as Coat #1, followed by 2-coats of Jeffco
...
  > which
  >   >   > means you can probably get away with 2-gallons.
  >   >   > Scott B.
  >   >   >
  >   >   >
  >   >   > ----- Original Message -----
  >   >   > From: "CBarber" <CBarber@texasattorney.net>
  >   >   > To: <reflector@tvbf.org>
  >   >   > Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 2:15 AM
  >   >   > Subject: RE: REFLECTOR:Jeffco and strakes
  >   >   >
  >   >   >
  >   >   > > Now that I looked further at the AS&S site, I remembered there
is
  > the
  >   > fast
  >   >   > > and medium harder (both available in one gallon "kits", so, I
am
  >   > thinking
  >   >   > > two, one gallon kits).  Suggestions as to the fast or med
  > hardener.
  >   > The
  >   >   > info
  >   >   > > says the Medium is 30 minutes if I am reading it
correctly....that
  >   > sounds
  >   >   > > pretty fast to me? Once again, Thanks.
  >   >   > >
  >   >   > > All the best,
  >   >   > >
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  >   >   > > -----Original Message-----
  >   >   > > From: reflector-admin@tvbf.org
[mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]On
  >   >   > > Behalf Of richard@riley.net
  >   >   > > Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 9:39 PM
  >   >   > > To: reflector@tvbf.org
  >   >   > > Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Jeffco and strakes
  >   >   > >
  >   >   > >
  >   >   > > At 09:34 PM 4/9/04 -0500, you wrote:
  >   >   > > >If I have a good weekend and get my canard mounted I should
be
  >   > starting
  >   >   > my
  >   >   > > >strakes in the near future.  I am building a standard wing SE
and
  > was
  >   >   > > >wondering about how much Jeffco I should need to coat the
fuel
  > area?
  >   >   > > >
  >   >   > > >AS&S has it in 8lb and 40lb amounts (I will see if I can get
it
  > from
  >   >   > Velo).
  >   >   > > >I assume I won't need the 40lb, but how many 8lb would y'all
  > suggest
  >   >   > > >(Hopefully only one <g>) TIA.
  >   >   > >
  >   >   > > I'd actually suggest 2.  One will probably do it, but it's WAY
  > easier
  >   > to
  >   >   > > pay to ship the second one back than to stop in the middle of
the
  > job
  >   > and
  >   >   > > wait for another delivery.
  >   >   > >
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