REFLECTOR:Velocity Manuals, Methods & Views
Chuck Jensen
reflector@tvbf.org
Tue, 13 Apr 2004 11:05:06 -0400
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Kurt,
You bring up a good point...and bad point. Certainly, the good was your
discovering the deficient nose gear before it had a chance to bring itself
to your attention at a most awkward time. The bad point is the "system"
that would have you in a place where you have a known deficit part, and
didn't know it. Strictly my opinion, but in this day of computers,
internet, email and relational databases, it seems there ought to be a
better tracking/notification system.
Such a system would be a significant investment in setting it up, in that
there are already a few hundred planes of unknown history and pedigree that
would need to be entered. But once set up, it would have high utility value
to builders and would help prevent your very circumstance. If the Factory
(the obvious "owner" of the program) needed to recover some of the upfront
cost, they could ask a one time subscription fee of $200 or $300 to cover
initial costs. The budget-minded among the builders could just choose to
not participate and continue to rely on luck in obtaining the information.
I would expect that a quality control program of this sort would ultimately
come close to paying for itself as a strong selling point to new potential
buyers for the Factory.
I'm sure Scott could fill us in on the number of times that changeout of the
nose gear has been mentioned in VV and here-n-there, but you are evidence
that the "system" employed is still not good enough. From your postings, it
seems apparent that you take care, are merticulous and are sometimes even
anal on details (your description!), yet you (re)discovered the problem by
luck and happenstance. That's not really good enough for a plane that ends
up costing $100K+.
Still room to improve.
Chuck
[Chuck Jensen] -----Original Message-----
From: reflector-admin@tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]On Behalf Of
NMFlyer1@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 9:12 AM
To: reflector@tvbf.org
Subject: REFLECTOR:Velocity Manuals, Methods & Views
This has been an interesting couple weeks. I just thought I would
share a couple things.
I know you have read some of my posts regarding aileron and rudder
frustrations lately.
I have been working on my kit for quite some time (almost 3000 hours so
far). No fast build anything, almost nothing farmed out, and my change to
Chevy power eats up a LOT of time.
Due to the time line, many things have changed at Velocity. My old manual is
obviously outdated, but will usually work. On my ailerons, it did not. The
factory has always been helpful and patient, and my aileron quest caused me
to start printing out the newer On-Line plans. Of course, the new plans and
my old manual are similar in some areas, and quite different in others.
I believe that a number of improvements and clarifications are located in
the new On-Line instructions that would be valuable to other builders that
have been building for some time.
There will be areas where the older parts or methods do not quite jive with
the new instructions. That can be dealt with, but I believe the newer
methods are much improved.
I ordered some parts from Aircraft Spruce & Headache, and my rudders should
be finished within a day or two of receiving the parts. The relatively cheap
parts will allow me to follow the newer methods in the manual, and have
better functioning and longer lasting rudder controls.
Since I have been building a while, I have a stack of velocity Views about
3" thick. I read every one and check the KPC's in every issue. There is
always the possibility that one can miss some information, and that happened
to me.
The latest V-V Rehashed the issue on nose gear forks. Last night in the
hangar, I glanced down at my nose gear fork, and: Holy Batshit... It looks
like I have the obsolete nose gear fork!
Now I have to get my V-V from work and double check... but THAT is a
valuable piece of information! That one little piece of previously emparted
information could well have saved me enough headache and damage money to pay
for a life's subscription to V-V.
Just thought I'd share.... my TheRapist says it's good for me :)
All the best... Kurt Winker
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<DIV><SPAN class=000283914-13042004>Kurt,</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=000283914-13042004></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=000283914-13042004>You bring up a good point...and bad
point. Certainly, the good was your discovering the deficient nose gear
before it had a chance to bring itself to your attention at a most awkward
time. The bad point is the "system" that would have you in a place
where you have a known deficit part, and didn't know it. Strictly my
opinion, but in this day of computers, internet, email and relational databases,
it seems there ought to be a better tracking/notification system.
</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=000283914-13042004></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=000283914-13042004>Such a system would be a significant
investment in setting it up, in that there are already a few hundred planes of
unknown history and pedigree that would need to be entered. But once set
up, it would have high utility value to builders and would help prevent your
very circumstance. If the Factory (the obvious "owner" of the program)
needed to recover some of the upfront cost, they could ask a one time
subscription fee of $200 or $300 to cover initial costs. The budget-minded
among the builders could just choose to not participate and continue to rely on
luck in obtaining the information. I would expect that a quality
control program of this sort would ultimately come close to paying for
itself as a strong selling point to new potential buyers for the
Factory.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=000283914-13042004></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=000283914-13042004>I'm sure Scott could fill us in on the
number of times that changeout of the nose gear has been mentioned in VV and
here-n-there, but you are evidence that the "system" employed is still not
good enough. From your postings, it seems apparent that you take care, are
merticulous and are sometimes even anal on details (your description!), yet
you (re)discovered the problem by luck and happenstance. That's not really
good enough for a plane that ends up costing $100K+.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=000283914-13042004></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=000283914-13042004>Still room to improve.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=000283914-13042004></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=000283914-13042004>Chuck</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=000283914-13042004></SPAN><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT
face=Arial></FONT><FONT face=Arial></FONT><BR><SPAN
class=000283914-13042004><FONT face=Arial>[Chuck
Jensen] </FONT></SPAN>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
reflector-admin@tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]<B>On Behalf Of
</B>NMFlyer1@aol.com<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, April 13, 2004 9:12
AM<BR><B>To:</B> reflector@tvbf.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> REFLECTOR:Velocity
Manuals, Methods & Views<BR></FONT><BR><SPAN
class=000283914-13042004>
</SPAN>This has been an interesting couple weeks. I just thought I would share a
couple things.</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV>I know you have read some of my posts regarding aileron and rudder
frustrations lately. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I have been working on my kit for quite some time (almost 3000 hours so
far). No fast build anything, almost nothing farmed out, and my change to
Chevy power eats up a LOT of time. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Due to the time line, many things have changed at Velocity. My old manual
is obviously outdated, but will usually work. On my ailerons, it did not. The
factory has always been helpful and patient, and my aileron quest caused
me to start printing out the newer On-Line plans. Of course, the new plans and
my old manual are similar in some areas, and quite different in others. </DIV>
<DIV> I believe that a number of improvements and clarifications are
located in the new On-Line instructions that would be valuable to other
builders that have been building for some time. </DIV>
<DIV>There will be areas where the older parts or methods do not quite
jive with the new instructions. That can be dealt with, but I believe the
newer methods are much improved. </DIV>
<DIV>I ordered some parts from Aircraft Spruce & Headache, and my rudders
should be finished within a day or two of receiving the parts. The relatively
cheap parts will allow me to follow the newer methods in the manual, and have
better functioning and longer lasting rudder controls. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Since I have been building a while, I have a stack of velocity Views
about 3" thick. I read every one and check the KPC's in every issue. There is
always the possibility that one can miss some information, and that happened
to me.</DIV>
<DIV>The latest V-V Rehashed the issue on nose gear forks. Last night in the
hangar, I glanced down at my nose gear fork, and: Holy Batshit... It looks
like I have the obsolete nose gear fork! </DIV>
<DIV>Now I have to get my V-V from work and double check... but THAT is a
valuable piece of information! That one little piece of previously
emparted information could well have saved me enough headache and damage
money to pay for a life's subscription to V-V. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Just thought I'd share.... my TheRapist says it's good for me :)
</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>All the best... Kurt Winker</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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