REFLECTOR:S-Tec modifications

Jack Sheehan reflector@tvbf.org
Tue, 6 Apr 2004 10:41:08 -0400


Fred,
Who did you talk to at S-Tec? Please send me the name and number. I 
have the same problem and need to make the fix. I have been flying 
for a year planning on fixing the S-Tec 30 but always keep putting it 
off. When I spoke with someone in tech service at S-Tec they did not 
seem to have a good answer. I guess you need to get the right person.
Jack
N55XL

>   Chuck:
>
>   Again thanks.  I spoke with Scott B and he says that this is common with
>S-Tec and velocities, I am not the only one with this problem.  I called
>S-teck and they will supply me with the pod and the diagram of how to do the
>modification.
>
>   Fred
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: "Chuck Jensen" <cjensen@dts9000.com>
>   To: <reflector@tvbf.org>
>   Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 6:53 AM
>   Subject: RE: REFLECTOR:Gear Up
>
>
>   > Fred,
>   >
>   > I might add, the Clevelands will not harm the gear legs on hard braking.
>   > The tires will skid before the gear is pressured enough to damage.  Can
>you
>   > make your tires "chirp" with the Matcos?  Not a standard practice but if
>it
>   > comes to that, you should be able to leave skid marks.  In a tight
>   > situation, the only skid marks Matcos leave is in your draws.
>   >
>   > S-Tec pilot oscillation issue.  If you look back through Reflector, and
>   > VVs?, the S-Tec oscillation has been addressed by S-Tec by adding a pot
>on
>   > one of the circuits (for experimentals only).  That exhausts what I know
>   > about it but I think there is a solution out there for you.
>   >
>   > Chuck
>   >
>   > -----Original Message-----
>   > From: reflector-admin@tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]On
>   > Behalf Of Fred Marconi
>   > Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 11:52 PM
>   > To: reflector@tvbf.org
>   > Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Gear Up
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >   Dear Scott B:
>   >
>   >   Well I was a little angry about the fork.  Mad Mike, before leaving
>was
>   > very emphatic about changing the fork, he said there was a new one, much
>   > better.  I called you on this specifically and you said everything was
>fine.
>   > If there was a question, why did yu not call mad Mike to make sure
>   > everything was OK.?   If not for wishing to center the wheel on the fork
>I
>   > would not have noticed what was happening.  This is why the bolt did not
>   > turn, I spoke to you about that as well.  In any event it's my fault for
>not
>   > reading the V-News but then again what of the clients that are not
>   > subscribed.  Well I have read the V-News but did not pick up on this.
>On
>   > another note if this is such an issue as with car companies that have
>   > thousands upon thousands of clients, when a defect is noticed, they have
>   > knowledge of who bought what and they notify the client directly.  There
>   > should have been a record of when I bought the fork and what fork and if
>   > this was such an issue to the well being of the client and the factory I
>   > should have been notified by mail.  When it comes to sending me a bill
>there
>   > is never a delay.  THAT VELOCITY KEEPS GOOD TRACK OFF.
>   >
>   >    Scott on these issues the company need to take a greater role in
>   > notifying the client.  YOu know how concientious I have been.  Rest
>assured
>   > that if I would have recieved a note form Velocity on this I would have
>   > taken action.  I did not hesitate to spend over $7000.00 for a new wing.
>I
>   > still love you, YOU ARE GREAT!
>   >
>   >   Now on the brakes.  Really these Matcos are.....Well what can I say.
>I
>   > mean I can land in 2500' with as little experience as I have, but the
>brakes
>   > do leave a lot to be desired.   It Chuck is right about the Clevelands
>the
>   > company should not be recommending or selling the Matco's  We do not
>need to
>   > be worried about overheating the brakes and damaging our main gear if
>there
>   > is a better alternative.
>   >
>   >   On a better note, I have 0.7 hours to go for the sign off.  The plane
>has
>   > performed beautifully.  today I did alot of x-wind landings, at Pohokee
>I
>   > landed with a 90 degree 15-18 mile x-wing.  I love how the plane
>handles.  I
>   > love to fly this plane, it's a rush.
>   >
>   >    I do have a problem with the s-Tec autopilot.  On the roll control
>the
>   > plane bobs constantly from right to left.  The ailerons just keep on
>going
>   > up and down.  The oscilations are small and very anoying.  Nathan had
>   > adjusted the ailerons slightly down, after flying the plane they as
>3/16" up
>   > both.  I am going to tighten the cables and readjust the ailerons to a
>down
>   > position.  What input do you have for me on this issue.  The climb and
>reach
>   > altitude and level function was a complete orgasm.
>   >
>   >   I practice on some high approaches on final and fast slow descent then
>   > nosing down to 100 then smoothing her in.  This plane handles great!!!!
>   > Would be interesting to see how she might perform with vortex generators
>and
>   > fences.
>   >
>   >   Fred
>   >   ----- Original Message -----
>   >   From: "Scott Baker" <sbakr@comcast.net>
>   >   To: <reflector@tvbf.org>
>   >   Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 7:27 AM
>   >   Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Gear Up
>   >
>   >
>   >   > Fred,
>   >   >     I don't think it's quite fair for anyone to criticize the
>factory
>   > for a
>   >   > busted nose wheel fork if it is of the old (smaller) design.  The
>   > factory
>   >   > has mentioned this time after time after time in the VV that the old
>   > forks
>   >   > should be replaced.  The factory subsidized the cost of the new
>forks.
>   > If
>   >   > someone is operating an old fork today - they are ignoring the
>warning
>   > from
>   >   > the factory.  So please don't lay blame on the factory for an
>"almost
>   >   > mishap" when your older fork developed a crack.
>   >   >     In regards to the main wheel getting stuck on the lip at the
>bottom
>   > of
>   >   > the wheel well.  This was caused as you know when the main gear leg
>   > warped
>   >   > when it became overheated after being exposed to the excessively hot
>   > heat
>   >   > from the brakes.  Overheated brakes and the problems that come from
>   >   > overheated brakes has also been the subject of repeated articles in
>the
>   >   > Velocity Views.  If you ride the brakes or do repeated hard braking,
>a
>   > lot
>   >   > of heat develops around the brake disk, which is then transferred to
>the
>   >   > gear leg.  Too much heat leads to a softening of the gear legs.  And
>if
>   >   > there is any stress on the gear legs when they are soft, the legs
>will
>   > warp
>   >   > to relieve the stress.  We need to a) understand that this situation
>is
>   >   > possible, b) try to avoid overheating the brakes, and c) when the
>brakes
>   > are
>   >   > overheated, do something about it like throwing a wet towel around
>the
>   > leg
>   >   > and/or pulling the aircraft forward about 15' after it has been
>stopped
>   > so
>   >   > that the pressures on the gear leg are neutralized, and lastly d)
>look
>   > for a
>   >   > warped leg during the preflight, just in case a,b,and c have been
>   > ignored.
>   >   > If the wheel or lower portion of the gear leg looks crooked, the
>   > geometry of
>   >   > the gear has obviously changed - and therefore the clearances of the
>   > gear
>   >   > going into the wheel well will be changed and there is a possibility
>of
>   >   > getting wheel stuck in the well.  The lip at the wheel well presents
>a
>   > ledge
>   >   > where hardware can catch and hang-up when this happens - so yes, I
>agree
>   >   > with you that not having a lip is better than having a lip - but
>   > eliminating
>   >   > the lip does not eliminate the possibility of a stuck gear ... the
>tire
>   >   > could easily wedge itself against the wheel well and the gear could
>be
>   > stuck
>   >   > to the point that it might not come down.  Again the root of this
>   > paragraph
>   >   > was overheated brakes and warped gear legs.
>   >   >
>   >   > ----- Original Message -----
>   >   > From: "Fred Marconi" <fmarconi@bellsouth.net>
>   >   > To: <reflector@tvbf.org>
>   >   > Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 12:45 AM
>   >   > Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Gear Up
>   >   >
>   >   >
>   >   > >   Scott:  Insurances for Velocity are provided at with a 10%
>   > deductible.
>   >   > At
>   >   > > that I felt that it was not wise to take hull coverage.
>   >   > >
>   >   > >   Velocity has a bad record, and I have to say that this is in
>part
>   > the
>   >   > > factory's fault.  The initial fork that was used for the front
>wheel
>   > was a
>   >   > > bad desigh.  It took many accidents before they decided to change.
>   >   > > Insurances did not forget this.  The landing gear system can be
>better
>   >   > > designed, the factory is slow to change, we pay the insurance
>price.
>   >   > >
>   >   > >   I was one of the lucky ones, I cought the crack on the old fork
>   > before a
>   >   > > mishap, I do have to thank the company for offering me a
>replacement
>   > for
>   >   > the
>   >   > > new desigh at no charge.  The mains, well they got stuck on me and
>   >   > > fortunatelly I had someone in the plane and we knocked them loose.
>   > The
>   >   > > wheel got cought on the inbord lip of the strake.  The camber had
>   > changed
>   >   > 2
>   >   > > degrees, enough to cause a problem.  I removed the lip and will
>add
>   > the
>   >   > > material to the skirt.  This skirts need to be redisigned, they
>would
>   > not
>   >   > > hear of this.
>   >   > >
>   >   > >   Fred
>   >   > >
>   >   > >   ----- Original Message -----
>   >   > >   From: "Scott Derrick" <scott@tnstaafl.net>
>   >   > >   To: <reflector@tvbf.org>
>   >   > >   Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 2:01 PM
>   >   > >   Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Gear Up
>   >   > >
>   >   > >
>   >   > >   > Don,
>   >   > >   >
>   >   > >   > What a drag!!! IN more ways than one!!  Sorry for the bad
>joke,
>   >   > >   >
>   >   > >   > Having just been through a nose up landing because of a stuck
>up
>   > nose
>   >   > > gear
>   >   > >   > I feel some of your pain.  THough I didn't trash a prop, I'm
>still
>   >   > >   > reshaping the nose, rebuilding the nose gear doors, and
>completely
>   >   > >   > replacing the nose gear assembly so I have the latest and
>greatest
>   >   > >   > equipment.
>   >   > >   >
>   >   > >   > I don;t have in-flight insurance so I'm doig htis out of
>pocket.
>   > Not
>   >   > to
>   >   > >   > bad really, but a trashed MT would have been pricey!
>   >   > >   >
>   >   > >   > Hope you figure out why it didn't lock.  What year was your
>kit?
>   >   > >   >
>   >   > >   > Scott
>   >   > >   >
>   >   > >   > > I had the main gear on my 173RGE collapse on landing this
>   > afternoon.
>   >   > > At
>   >   > >   > > first glance the damage doesn't seem to be too bad. A ground
>up
>   >   > belly
>   >   > > and
>   >   > >   > > a trashed MT prop.
>   >   > >   > >
>   >   > >   > > It is really too soon to do much speculation as to the cause
>   > until I
>   >   > > have
>   >   > >   > > had a chance to examine it more carefully. However, at  this
>   > point
>   >   > it
>   >   > >   > > looks as though the overcenter linkage may simply not have
>   > latched
>   >   > >   > > properly. I can't really say whether I had two greens on the
>   > gear
>   >   > > lights
>   >   > >   > > or not, but I am sure that I didn't have a red light.
>   >   > >   > >
>   >   > >   > > I will report back if and when I have more definite
>information
>   > as
>   >   > to
>   >   > > what
>   >   > >   > > happened.
>   >   > >   > >
>   >   > >   > > Donald Royer
>   >   > >   > > djroyer@earthlink.net
>   >   > >   >
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