REFLECTOR:Termites, fumigation and fiberglass

Hiroo Umeno reflector@tvbf.org
Wed, 24 Sep 2003 14:34:07 -0700


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I have to preface my response with "I personally have no first hand
experiences with this." But...

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I'd be careful about what they mean by "no effects on fiberglass
components".  My gut tells me that they mean finished fiberglass
components like your Corvette.  I would be nervous about the chemicals
leaving residues on the cloth and altering the adhesion characteristics.
The glass is pretty non-reactive but if the stuff leaves residues, it
may interfere with resin penetration, adhesion, structural strength,
etc.

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If I were you, I would take the cloth and resin out of the garage and
keep them at friend's house, just to be safe.

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Hiroo

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-----Original Message-----
From: reflector-admin@tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org] On
Behalf Of Phil@hdmnet.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 1:41 PM
To: reflector@tvbf.org
Subject: REFLECTOR:Termites, fumigation and fiberglass

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We're going have our home tented and fumigated for termites using Vikane
gas by Dow Chemical.  It apparently is a common gas used in California.
Our garage/hangar will be tented as well, in which rests our beloved
Velocity, cloth and resin.  Dow tells me: "If the fumigator applies
Vikane according to label directions, there will be no effect to the
fiberglass components in your garage."  Apparently, the stuff is "non
reactive" but penetrates like Hell to go after those critters in the
wood.  The termite folks think it will be fine.  The factory feels there
should not be a problem but leans in my direction that it might be
better to remove everything before the gas is released.

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Any of you fine builders have experience with this issue or any
thoughts?  I will appreciate the wisdom of the collective.  (It's too
late, I've been assimilated, resistance was "futile.")

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Phil Hooper

Harvest Development & Media

714/693-8745 (voice)

714/777-0134 (fax)

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I have to preface my response with =
&#8220;I
personally have no first hand experiences with this.&#8221; =
But&#8230;</span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I&#8217;d be careful about what =
they mean
by &#8220;no effects on fiberglass components&#8221;. &nbsp;My gut tells =
me that
they mean finished fiberglass components like your Corvette.&nbsp; I =
would be
nervous about the chemicals leaving residues on the cloth and altering =
the adhesion
characteristics.&nbsp; The glass is pretty non-reactive but if the stuff =
leaves
residues, it may interfere with resin penetration, adhesion, structural
strength, etc.</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>If I were you, I would take the =
cloth and
resin out of the garage and keep them at friend&#8217;s house, just to =
be safe.</span></font></p>

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face=3DTahoma><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original =
Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> =
reflector-admin@tvbf.org
[mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org] <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On =
Behalf
Of </span></b>Phil@hdmnet.com<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> </span></font><font =
face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-family:Tahoma'>Wednesday, September =
24, 2003</span></font><font
face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-family:Tahoma'> </span></font><font
 face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-family:Tahoma'>1:41 =
PM</span></font><font
face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-family:Tahoma'><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
reflector@tvbf.org<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> =
REFLECTOR:Termites,
fumigation and fiberglass</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>We&#8217;re going have our =
home
tented and fumigated for termites using Vikane gas by Dow Chemical. =
&nbsp;It
apparently is a common gas used in California.&nbsp; Our garage/hangar =
will be
tented as well, in which rests our beloved Velocity, cloth and resin. =
&nbsp;Dow
tells me: &#8220;If the fumigator applies Vikane according to label =
directions,
there will be no effect to the fiberglass components in your =
garage.&#8221;&nbsp;
Apparently, the stuff is &#8220;non reactive&#8221; but penetrates like =
Hell to
go after those critters in the wood.&nbsp; The termite folks think it =
will be
fine.&nbsp; The factory feels there should not be a problem but leans in =
my
direction that it might be better to remove everything before the gas is
released.</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Any of you fine builders =
have
experience with this issue or any thoughts?&nbsp; I will appreciate the =
wisdom
of the collective.&nbsp; (It&#8217;s too late, I&#8217;ve been =
assimilated,
resistance was &#8220;futile.&#8221;)</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Phil =
Hooper</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Harvest Development &amp; =
Media</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>714/693-8745 =
(voice)</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>714/777-0134 =
(fax)</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 =
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

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