REFLECTOR:Alternator Update
Brian Michalk
reflector@tvbf.org
Sun, 14 Sep 2003 09:47:29 -0500
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Could you send a picture of the cooling fan?
I feel that a majority of the alternator failures are of the automotive type
with internal regulator, and a fan designed to spin the "other" way.
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From: reflector-admin@tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]On Behalf
Of Ronnie Brown
Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 9:30 AM
To: reflector@tvbf.org
Subject: REFLECTOR:Alternator Update
I found and fixed my alternator problem. A broken wire between the field
slip ring and the field winding. I added a U shaped piece of wire to reach
beyond the broken end of the field wire and soldered it back together. It
worked fine for one hour yesterday.
Here's what I found out while researching this problem:
My alternator is made by Hitachi and used on 81-87 Mazda (probably not
RX-7's) per NAPA parts manual and does not have an internal voltage
regulator. I have a VR-600 solid state regulator mounted on the firewall.
Don George says he obtained these from AirTec at 1-800-366-4746. They
supply non- certified alternators for the homebuilt crowd.
Also, someone says the Velocity factory sells an internally regulated
alternator for $200
I also got an email from <Mahlon_Russell@teledyne.com>
| Hi Ronnie,
| I think the actual P/N of the alternator you may have is a Mitsubishi
| 186-0355 or 14700. It may help in your quest for brushes! If you need a
| replacement we sell the complete set up: belt, alt. mounts brackets and
| hardware for $245.00. I agree expensive by automotive standards!
| Good Luck,
| Mahlon
|
Mahlon also sent the following:
| Hi Ronnie,
| It depends on where your engine came from or what application you are
| trying to mimic.
| Pipers used Mopar and Prestolite on O-320's
| Cessna used Ford on O-320's
| Beech used Ford and Prestolite on O-320's
| Can't remember what Bellanca and some of the others used but basically
they
| all used some version of Ford, Prestolite or Mopar. To further
complicate
| things the mounting brackets and ring gear support assemblies were
| different for each of the installations. IE belt that fit a ford alt.
| pulley doesn't fit a MOPAR flywheel and same thing for the mounting
| brackets. You really need to know what brackets and what flywheel you
have
| to make the correct determination of what's the right Alternator. If you
| let me know what you have I will try to check it out for you On Monday
when
| I am back in the shop. If you are totally confused feel free to call me
at
| 1-800-624-6680 ext 305 and maybe I can better explain verbally.
| Anyway I hope this helps,
| Mahlon Russell
|
Time: 12:37:48 PM PST US
From: "Jim and Bev Cone" <jimnbev@olypen.com>
Subject: RV-List: Alternator
--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim and Bev Cone" <jimnbev@olypen.com>
The Pelican alternator sold by ACS is off of a Chevy Sprint
Spectrum. It is a small 65 amp alternator that is self regulating and has
automatic
overheat protection that resets when an overheated condition is resolved.
I have one and it works well.
Jim Cone
Another post from kr shultz" <sfg0152002@yahoo.com
Think it is a Suzuki Samurai 1995 to 2001
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[mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Ronnie=20
Brown<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, September 14, 2003 9:30 AM<BR><B>To:</B> =
reflector@tvbf.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> REFLECTOR:Alternator=20
Update<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT size=3D2>
<DIV>I found and fixed my alternator problem. A broken wire =
between the=20
field slip ring and the field winding. I added a U shaped piece =
of wire=20
to reach beyond the broken end of the field wire and soldered it back=20
together. It worked fine for one hour yesterday.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Here's what I found out while researching this problem:</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>My alternator is made by Hitachi and used on 81-87 Mazda =
(probably not=20
RX-7's) per NAPA parts manual and does not have an internal voltage =
regulator.=20
I have a VR-600 solid state regulator mounted on the firewall. Don =
George says=20
he obtained these from AirTec at 1-800-366-4746. They supply =
non-=20
certified alternators for the homebuilt crowd.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Also, someone says the Velocity factory sells an internally =
regulated=20
alternator for $200</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I also got an email from <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:Mahlon_Russell@teledyne.com">Mahlon_Russell@teledyne.com</=
A>><BR></DIV>
<DIV>| Hi Ronnie,<BR>| I think the actual P/N of the alternator you =
may have=20
is a Mitsubishi<BR>| 186-0355 or 14700. It may help in your =
quest for=20
brushes! If you need a<BR>| replacement we sell the complete set =
up:=20
belt, alt. mounts brackets and<BR>| hardware for $245.00. I agree =
expensive by=20
automotive standards!<BR>| Good Luck,<BR>| Mahlon<BR>|<BR></DIV>
<DIV>Mahlon also sent the following:</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><BR>| Hi Ronnie,<BR>| It depends on where your engine came from =
or what=20
application you are<BR>| trying to mimic.<BR>| Pipers used Mopar and=20
Prestolite on O-320's<BR>| Cessna used Ford on O-320's<BR>| Beech used =
Ford=20
and Prestolite on O-320's<BR>| Can't remember what Bellanca and =
some of=20
the others used but basically they<BR>| all used some version of Ford, =
Prestolite or Mopar. To further complicate<BR>| things the mounting =
brackets=20
and ring gear support assemblies were<BR>| different for each of the=20
installations. IE belt that fit a ford alt.<BR>| pulley doesn't =
fit a=20
MOPAR flywheel and same thing for the mounting<BR>| brackets. You =
really need=20
to know what brackets and what flywheel you have<BR>| to make the =
correct=20
determination of what's the right Alternator. If you<BR>| let me know =
what you=20
have I will try to check it out for you On Monday when<BR>| I am back =
in the=20
shop. If you are totally confused feel free to call me at<BR>| =
1-800-624-6680=20
ext 305 and maybe I can better explain verbally.<BR>| Anyway I hope =
this=20
helps,<BR>| Mahlon Russell<BR>|<BR><BR>Time: 12:37:48 PM PST =
US<BR>From: "Jim=20
and Bev Cone" <<A href=3D"mailto:jimnbev@olypen.com"><FONT=20
size=3D3>jimnbev@olypen.com</FONT></A><FONT size=3D3>><BR>Subject: =
RV-List:=20
Alternator<BR><BR>--> RV-List message posted by: "Jim and Bev Cone" =
<</FONT><A href=3D"mailto:jimnbev@olypen.com"><FONT=20
size=3D3>jimnbev@olypen.com</FONT></A><FONT size=3D3>><BR><BR>The =
Pelican=20
alternator sold by ACS is off of a Chevy Sprint<BR>Spectrum. It =
is a=20
small 65 amp alternator that is self regulating and has =
automatic<BR>overheat=20
protection that resets when an overheated condition is resolved.<BR>I =
have one=20
and it works well.<BR><BR>Jim Cone<BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D3>Another post from kr shultz" <<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:sfg0152002@yahoo.com">sfg0152002@yahoo.com</A></FONT></DIV=
>
<DIV><FONT size=3D3>Think it is a Suzuki Samurai 1995 to =
2001</FONT></DIV>
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