REFLECTOR:Alternator Update

Brian Michalk reflector@tvbf.org
Sun, 14 Sep 2003 09:47:29 -0500


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Could you send a picture of the cooling fan?

I feel that a majority of the alternator failures are of the automotive type
with internal regulator, and a fan designed to spin the "other" way.
  -----Original Message-----
  From: reflector-admin@tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]On Behalf
Of Ronnie Brown
  Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 9:30 AM
  To: reflector@tvbf.org
  Subject: REFLECTOR:Alternator Update


  I found and fixed my alternator problem.  A broken wire between the field
slip ring and the field winding.  I added a U shaped piece of wire to reach
beyond the broken end of the field wire and soldered it back together.  It
worked fine for one hour yesterday.

  Here's what I found out while researching this problem:

  My alternator is made by Hitachi and used on 81-87 Mazda (probably not
RX-7's) per NAPA parts manual and does not have an internal voltage
regulator. I have a VR-600 solid state regulator mounted on the firewall.
Don George says he obtained these from AirTec at 1-800-366-4746.  They
supply non- certified alternators  for the homebuilt crowd.

  Also, someone says the Velocity factory sells an internally regulated
alternator for $200

  I also got an email from <Mahlon_Russell@teledyne.com>

  | Hi Ronnie,
  | I think the actual P/N of the alternator you may have is a  Mitsubishi
  | 186-0355 or 14700. It may help in your quest for brushes! If you need a
  | replacement we sell the  complete set up: belt, alt. mounts brackets and
  | hardware for $245.00. I agree expensive by automotive standards!
  | Good Luck,
  | Mahlon
  |

  Mahlon also sent the following:


  | Hi Ronnie,
  | It depends on where your engine came from or what application you are
  | trying to mimic.
  | Pipers used Mopar and Prestolite on O-320's
  | Cessna used Ford on O-320's
  | Beech used Ford and Prestolite  on O-320's
  | Can't remember what Bellanca and some of the others used but basically
they
  | all used some version of Ford, Prestolite or Mopar. To further
complicate
  | things the mounting brackets and ring gear support assemblies were
  | different for each of the installations. IE belt that fit a ford  alt.
  | pulley doesn't fit a MOPAR flywheel and same thing for the mounting
  | brackets. You really need to know what brackets and what flywheel you
have
  | to make the correct determination of what's the right Alternator. If you
  | let me know what you have I will try to check it out for you On Monday
when
  | I am back in the shop. If you are totally confused feel free to call me
at
  | 1-800-624-6680 ext 305 and maybe I can better explain verbally.
  | Anyway I hope this helps,
  | Mahlon Russell
  |

  Time: 12:37:48 PM PST US
  From: "Jim and Bev Cone" <jimnbev@olypen.com>
  Subject: RV-List: Alternator

  --> RV-List message posted by: "Jim and Bev Cone" <jimnbev@olypen.com>

  The Pelican alternator sold by ACS is off of a Chevy Sprint
  Spectrum.  It is a small 65 amp alternator that is self regulating and has
automatic
  overheat protection that resets when an overheated condition is resolved.
  I have one and it works well.

  Jim Cone

  Another post from kr shultz" <sfg0152002@yahoo.com
  Think it is a Suzuki Samurai 1995 to 2001



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  size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =
reflector-admin@tvbf.org=20
  [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Ronnie=20
  Brown<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, September 14, 2003 9:30 AM<BR><B>To:</B> =

  reflector@tvbf.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> REFLECTOR:Alternator=20
  Update<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT size=3D2>
  <DIV>I found and fixed my alternator problem.&nbsp; A broken wire =
between the=20
  field slip ring and the field winding.&nbsp; I added a U shaped piece =
of wire=20
  to reach beyond the broken end of the field wire and soldered it back=20
  together.&nbsp; It worked fine for one hour yesterday.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Here's what I found out while researching this problem:</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>My alternator is made by Hitachi and used on 81-87 Mazda =
(probably not=20
  RX-7's) per NAPA parts manual and does not have an internal voltage =
regulator.=20
  I have a VR-600 solid state regulator mounted on the firewall. Don =
George says=20
  he obtained these from AirTec at 1-800-366-4746.&nbsp; They supply =
non-=20
  certified alternators&nbsp; for the homebuilt crowd.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Also, someone says the Velocity factory sells an internally =
regulated=20
  alternator for $200</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>I also got an email from&nbsp;&lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:Mahlon_Russell@teledyne.com">Mahlon_Russell@teledyne.com</=
A>&gt;<BR></DIV>
  <DIV>| Hi Ronnie,<BR>| I think the actual P/N of the alternator you =
may have=20
  is a&nbsp; Mitsubishi<BR>| 186-0355 or 14700. It may help in your =
quest for=20
  brushes! If you need a<BR>| replacement we sell the&nbsp; complete set =
up:=20
  belt, alt. mounts brackets and<BR>| hardware for $245.00. I agree =
expensive by=20
  automotive standards!<BR>| Good Luck,<BR>| Mahlon<BR>|<BR></DIV>
  <DIV>Mahlon also sent the following:</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><BR>| Hi Ronnie,<BR>| It depends on where your engine came from =
or what=20
  application you are<BR>| trying to mimic.<BR>| Pipers used Mopar and=20
  Prestolite on O-320's<BR>| Cessna used Ford on O-320's<BR>| Beech used =
Ford=20
  and Prestolite&nbsp; on O-320's<BR>| Can't remember what Bellanca and =
some of=20
  the others used but basically they<BR>| all used some version of Ford, =

  Prestolite or Mopar. To further complicate<BR>| things the mounting =
brackets=20
  and ring gear support assemblies were<BR>| different for each of the=20
  installations. IE belt that fit a ford&nbsp; alt.<BR>| pulley doesn't =
fit a=20
  MOPAR flywheel and same thing for the mounting<BR>| brackets. You =
really need=20
  to know what brackets and what flywheel you have<BR>| to make the =
correct=20
  determination of what's the right Alternator. If you<BR>| let me know =
what you=20
  have I will try to check it out for you On Monday when<BR>| I am back =
in the=20
  shop. If you are totally confused feel free to call me at<BR>| =
1-800-624-6680=20
  ext 305 and maybe I can better explain verbally.<BR>| Anyway I hope =
this=20
  helps,<BR>| Mahlon Russell<BR>|<BR><BR>Time: 12:37:48 PM PST =
US<BR>From: "Jim=20
  and Bev Cone" &lt;<A href=3D"mailto:jimnbev@olypen.com"><FONT=20
  size=3D3>jimnbev@olypen.com</FONT></A><FONT size=3D3>&gt;<BR>Subject: =
RV-List:=20
  Alternator<BR><BR>--&gt; RV-List message posted by: "Jim and Bev Cone" =

  &lt;</FONT><A href=3D"mailto:jimnbev@olypen.com"><FONT=20
  size=3D3>jimnbev@olypen.com</FONT></A><FONT size=3D3>&gt;<BR><BR>The =
Pelican=20
  alternator sold by ACS is off of a Chevy Sprint<BR>Spectrum.&nbsp; It =
is a=20
  small 65 amp alternator that is self regulating and has =
automatic<BR>overheat=20
  protection that resets when an overheated condition is resolved.<BR>I =
have one=20
  and it works well.<BR><BR>Jim Cone<BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D3>Another post from kr shultz" &lt;<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:sfg0152002@yahoo.com">sfg0152002@yahoo.com</A></FONT></DIV=
>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D3>Think it is a Suzuki Samurai 1995 to =
2001</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D3></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D3><FONT=20
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