REFLECTOR:Alternator
Ronnie Brown
reflector@tvbf.org
Tue, 9 Sep 2003 09:50:44 -0400
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Hi Nolan,
Thanks! Will do. In fact, I think I'll take it to my favorite =
alternator shop (run by two old hippy Harley types - look like they have =
been on a three day drunk - but they know their stuff!!!!) and let them =
solder it. =20
Ronnie
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Nolan Frederick=20
To: reflector@tvbf.org=20
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Alternator
Ronnie, If you are going to repair that alternator slip ring =
connection please give some serious thought to using a high silver =
content solder. Sears used to sell it. Use rosin core only, not acid =
core solder. FWIW.
nolan.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Ronnie Brown=20
To: reflector@tvbf.org=20
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 6:29 AM
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Alternator
My IO 360's alternator is a Hitachi supposedly from a 1981-1987 =
Mazda. It has an external regulator - I have a solid state VR600. =
Right now it is down due to a broken wire in the field to slip ring =
connection. I am going to try to repair it and replace the brushes =
which are supposed to arrive on Thursday. This alternator came with the =
Don George engine.
I see no reason why you couldn't use a built in regulator - as Keith =
states most autos now use built in regulators - it certainly improves =
your chances of finding a match from a more common automobile. But you =
will have to find a bracket to match the Lycoming alternator mounting =
boss. I'd favor the $200 kit from Velocity, it should also include the =
mounting boss and adjusting bracket.
Bob Nuckols favors the external regulator and the overvoltage =
protection scheme he designed. The advantage is that IF there was a =
voltage run away, it would minimize the damage to the high dollar =
avionics in your panel.
Ronnie =20
----- Original Message -----=20
From: KeithHallsten=20
To: reflector@tvbf.org=20
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 2:33 AM
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Alternator
Mel,
Any "aircraft" alternator will not have an internal regulator, but =
just about every "automobile" alternator will incorporate a regulator. =
I'm going with the B&C alternators myself, which are nothing more than =
Nippon Denso auto alternators which have been precision balanced and had =
the built-in regulator removed. Yes, it's a lot of money, but it's hard =
to argue with their record of success!
Keith
----- Original Message -----=20
From: PUSHERPILOT@wmconnect.com=20
To: reflector@awpi.com=20
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 10:16 PM
Subject: REFLECTOR:Alternator
I purchased a B&C voltage regulator several years ago and =
intended to also buy their alternator. Now I find that I no longer =
think that they are worth $600 to $700. Velocity has a 60 amp for about =
$200 but it has the voltage regulator built in and I hear that it's a =
major effort to disable it. Does anyone know of an alternator without a =
regulator that will fit my LYC IO360? Also, what's the difference =
between a case mount and a boss mount?=20
99.9% finished and taking for ever!!=20
Mel Bina STD RG=20
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Hi Nolan,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Thanks! Will do. In fact, I think I'll =
take it to=20
my favorite alternator shop (run by two old hippy Harley types - look =
like they=20
have been on a three day drunk - but they know their stuff!!!!) and let =
them=20
solder it. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Ronnie</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=3Dnvincent@idcomm.com =
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Frederick</A> </DIV>
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2003 9:28=20
AM</DIV>
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<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000080>Ronnie, If you are going to repair that =
alternator=20
slip ring connection please give some serious thought to using a high =
silver=20
content solder. Sears used to sell it. Use rosin core =
only, not=20
acid core solder. FWIW.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000080>nolan.</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=3Dromott@adelphia.net =
href=3D"mailto:romott@adelphia.net">Ronnie=20
Brown</A> </DIV>
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title=3Dreflector@tvbf.org=20
href=3D"mailto:reflector@tvbf.org">reflector@tvbf.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, September 09, =
2003 6:29=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: =
REFLECTOR:Alternator</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>My IO 360's alternator is a Hitachi supposedly =
from a=20
1981-1987 Mazda. It has an external regulator - I have a solid =
state=20
VR600. Right now it is down due to a broken wire in the field =
to slip=20
ring connection. I am going to try to repair it and replace =
the=20
brushes which are supposed to arrive on Thursday. This =
alternator came=20
with the Don George engine.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I see no reason why you couldn't use a built in =
regulator=20
- as Keith states most autos now use built in regulators =
- it=20
certainly improves your chances of finding a match from a more =
common=20
automobile. But you will have to find a bracket to match =
the Lycoming alternator mounting boss. I'd favor the $200 =
kit=20
from Velocity, it should also include the mounting boss and =
adjusting=20
bracket.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Bob Nuckols favors the external regulator and =
the=20
overvoltage protection scheme he designed. The advantage is=20
that IF there was a voltage run away, it would minimize the =
damage to=20
the high dollar avionics in your panel.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Ronnie </FONT></DIV>
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<A title=3DKeithHallsten@quiknet.com=20
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href=3D"mailto:reflector@tvbf.org">reflector@tvbf.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, September =
09, 2003=20
2:33 AM</DIV>
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REFLECTOR:Alternator</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mel,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any "aircraft" alternator will =
not have an=20
internal regulator, but just about every "automobile" alternator =
will=20
incorporate a regulator. I'm going with the B&C =
alternators=20
myself, which are nothing more than Nippon Denso auto alternators =
which=20
have been precision balanced and had the built-in regulator =
removed. =20
Yes, it's a lot of money, but it's hard to argue with their record =
of=20
success!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Keith</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<A title=3DPUSHERPILOT@wmconnect.com=20
=
href=3D"mailto:PUSHERPILOT@wmconnect.com">PUSHERPILOT@wmconnect.com</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dreflector@awpi.com=20
href=3D"mailto:reflector@awpi.com">reflector@awpi.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, September =
08, 2003=20
10:16 PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> =
REFLECTOR:Alternator</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT><BR></DIV><FONT =
face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT=20
size=3D2>I purchased a B&C voltage regulator several years =
ago and=20
intended to also buy their alternator. Now I find that I =
no longer=20
think that they are worth $600 to $700. Velocity has a 60 =
amp for=20
about $200 but it has the voltage regulator built in and I hear =
that=20
it's a major effort to disable it. Does anyone know of an=20
alternator without a regulator that will fit my LYC IO360? =
Also,=20
what's the difference between a case mount and a boss mount?=20
<BR><BR>99.9% finished and taking for ever!! <BR><BR>Mel Bina =
STD=20
RG</FONT>=20
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