REFLECTOR:Alternator
Ronnie Brown
reflector@tvbf.org
Tue, 9 Sep 2003 08:29:58 -0400
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My IO 360's alternator is a Hitachi supposedly from a 1981-1987 Mazda. =
It has an external regulator - I have a solid state VR600. Right now it =
is down due to a broken wire in the field to slip ring connection. I am =
going to try to repair it and replace the brushes which are supposed to =
arrive on Thursday. This alternator came with the Don George engine.
I see no reason why you couldn't use a built in regulator - as Keith =
states most autos now use built in regulators - it certainly improves =
your chances of finding a match from a more common automobile. But you =
will have to find a bracket to match the Lycoming alternator mounting =
boss. I'd favor the $200 kit from Velocity, it should also include the =
mounting boss and adjusting bracket.
Bob Nuckols favors the external regulator and the overvoltage protection =
scheme he designed. The advantage is that IF there was a voltage run =
away, it would minimize the damage to the high dollar avionics in your =
panel.
Ronnie =20
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From: KeithHallsten=20
To: reflector@tvbf.org=20
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 2:33 AM
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Alternator
Mel,
Any "aircraft" alternator will not have an internal regulator, but =
just about every "automobile" alternator will incorporate a regulator. =
I'm going with the B&C alternators myself, which are nothing more than =
Nippon Denso auto alternators which have been precision balanced and had =
the built-in regulator removed. Yes, it's a lot of money, but it's hard =
to argue with their record of success!
Keith
----- Original Message -----=20
From: PUSHERPILOT@wmconnect.com=20
To: reflector@awpi.com=20
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 10:16 PM
Subject: REFLECTOR:Alternator
I purchased a B&C voltage regulator several years ago and intended =
to also buy their alternator. Now I find that I no longer think that =
they are worth $600 to $700. Velocity has a 60 amp for about $200 but =
it has the voltage regulator built in and I hear that it's a major =
effort to disable it. Does anyone know of an alternator without a =
regulator that will fit my LYC IO360? Also, what's the difference =
between a case mount and a boss mount?=20
99.9% finished and taking for ever!!=20
Mel Bina STD RG=20
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>My IO 360's alternator is a Hitachi supposedly from =
a=20
1981-1987 Mazda. It has an external regulator - I have a solid =
state=20
VR600. Right now it is down due to a broken wire in the field to =
slip ring=20
connection. I am going to try to repair it and replace the brushes =
which=20
are supposed to arrive on Thursday. This alternator came with the =
Don=20
George engine.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I see no reason why you couldn't use a built in =
regulator - as=20
Keith states most autos now use built in regulators - it =
certainly=20
improves your chances of finding a match from a more common=20
automobile. But you will have to find a bracket to match=20
the Lycoming alternator mounting boss. I'd favor the $200 kit =
from=20
Velocity, it should also include the mounting boss and adjusting=20
bracket.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Bob Nuckols favors the external regulator and the =
overvoltage=20
protection scheme he designed. The advantage is that IF there =
was a=20
voltage run away, it would minimize the damage to the high dollar =
avionics in=20
your panel.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Ronnie </FONT></DIV>
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2003 2:33=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mel,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Any "aircraft" alternator will not =
have an=20
internal regulator, but just about every "automobile" alternator will=20
incorporate a regulator. I'm going with the B&C alternators =
myself,=20
which are nothing more than Nippon Denso auto alternators which have =
been=20
precision balanced and had the built-in regulator removed. Yes, =
it's a=20
lot of money, but it's hard to argue with their record of=20
success!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Keith</FONT></DIV>
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2003 10:16=20
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REFLECTOR:Alternator</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT><BR></DIV><FONT =
face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT size=3D2>I=20
purchased a B&C voltage regulator several years ago and intended =
to also=20
buy their alternator. Now I find that I no longer think that =
they are=20
worth $600 to $700. Velocity has a 60 amp for about $200 but =
it has=20
the voltage regulator built in and I hear that it's a major effort =
to=20
disable it. Does anyone know of an alternator without a =
regulator that=20
will fit my LYC IO360? Also, what's the difference between a =
case=20
mount and a boss mount? <BR><BR>99.9% finished and taking for ever!! =
<BR><BR>Mel Bina STD RG</FONT>=20
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