REFLECTOR:accidents/incidents

[Ronnie Brown]

Actually, there is a LongEZ that does airshows. Lon Arnold - see
http://www.longezairshows.com/

I would love to see him fly - I've heard he does a super job, sort of like
the glider that does aerobatics at SnF and Oshkosh.

Ronnie

----- Original Message -----
From: "Milton Merskey" <miltonm@airmail.net>
To: <reflector@tvbf.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 11:19 AM
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:accidents/incidents


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| ----- Original Message -----
| From: "Scott" <scott@tnstaafl.net>
| To: <reflector@tvbf.org>
| Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 8:48 AM
| Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:accidents/incidents
|
|
| > There is an air show performer that does Aerobatics in a LongEZ., I've
| seen
| > him perform a couple times.
|
| And those performers are called: Mike Melville and Dick Rutan
|
| milt
| >
| > Does hammerheads, loops etc..
| >
| > Geeee, I wonder how he survives doing that all year long, over and over
| again?
| >
| > Scott
| >
| > At 01:45 AM 11/11/2003, you wrote:
| > >Jim,
| > >
| > >Your post concerns me even more than Scott's!
| > >  See Velocity Views volume 7 Safety Corner by Duane on
| > >deep stall avoidance and recovery; see more of the
| > >same in volume 8 Safety Corner under "Deep Stall";
| > >also see volume 12 Safety Corner under "Aerobatic
| > >Warning."
| > >  Pls note that 1) it is possible to stall the the main
| > >wing by flying outside of the normal flight envelope
| > >(i.e. aerobatics), and 2) this can lead to a deep
| > >stall - from which you might be able to recover - but
| > >it probably WON'T "go right on through flat and deep
| > >stalled on its way to straight down."
| > >  Glad to hear this was a non-event for you and your
| > >buddies in other canards, but it doesn't seem
| > >reasonable to imply the same will be true for the
| > >Velocity given the factory's testing and warnings to
| > >the contrary.
| > >  Anyway, my main point was how the main wing can be
| > >stalled - not to open the deep stall recovery can.
| > >
| > >Pat
| > >
| > >--- Jim Sower <canarder@frontiernet.net> wrote:
| > > > Now here I had always thought that if your CG was
| > > > within limits and you did that, the
| > > > plane would go right on through flat and deep
| > > > stalled on its way to straight down.
| > > > I'm pretty sure I've done that in my EZ with no ill
| > > > effects.  I'm pretty sure about
| > > > half the canard community has too.
| > > > I think if that were true there'd be dead canards
| > > > splattered all over the country ...
| > > > Jim S.
| > > >
| > > > Pat Shea wrote:
| > > >
| > > > > Pssst!
| > > > >
| > > > >  If you point the nose straight up, the airspeed
| > > > will
| > > > > eventually bleed down to zero & the main wing will
| > > > > stall. From there, the plane may even enter a deep
| > > > > stall from which you can't recover. This is why
| > > > > certain aerobatics (i.e. loops) are riskier in
| > > > canards
| > > > > than in tractor planes. A properly rigged & loaded
| > > > > Velocity, like most canards, is only stall proof
| > > > > within the "normal" flight envelope.
| > > > >
| > > > > Pat
| > > > >
| > > > > --- Scott <scott@tnstaafl.net> wrote:
| > > > >
| > > > > >Well, this is completely contrary to all I have
| > > > > >heard from people who fly these planes for a
| > > > living.
| > > > > >
| > > > > >Are you passing on rumor of have you actually
| > > > done
| > > > > >it?
| > > > >
| > > > > >>But even the current design can be pushed into a
| > > > > >>wing stall if you work at it.
| > > > >
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| > > > Long-EZ N83RT, Velocity N4095T
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