REFLECTOR:accidents/incidents

[Pat Shea]

Jim,

Your post concerns me even more than Scott's!
 See Velocity Views volume 7 Safety Corner by Duane on
deep stall avoidance and recovery; see more of the
same in volume 8 Safety Corner under "Deep Stall";
also see volume 12 Safety Corner under "Aerobatic
Warning."
 Pls note that 1) it is possible to stall the the main
wing by flying outside of the normal flight envelope
(i.e. aerobatics), and 2) this can lead to a deep
stall - from which you might be able to recover - but
it probably WON'T "go right on through flat and deep
stalled on its way to straight down." 
 Glad to hear this was a non-event for you and your
buddies in other canards, but it doesn't seem
reasonable to imply the same will be true for the
Velocity given the factory's testing and warnings to
the contrary.
 Anyway, my main point was how the main wing can be
stalled - not to open the deep stall recovery can.

Pat
  
--- Jim Sower <canarder@frontiernet.net> wrote:
> Now here I had always thought that if your CG was
> within limits and you did that, the
> plane would go right on through flat and deep
> stalled on its way to straight down.
> I'm pretty sure I've done that in my EZ with no ill
> effects.  I'm pretty sure about
> half the canard community has too.
> I think if that were true there'd be dead canards
> splattered all over the country ...
> Jim S.
> 
> Pat Shea wrote:
> 
> > Pssst!
> >
> >  If you point the nose straight up, the airspeed
> will
> > eventually bleed down to zero & the main wing will
> > stall. From there, the plane may even enter a deep
> > stall from which you can't recover. This is why
> > certain aerobatics (i.e. loops) are riskier in
> canards
> > than in tractor planes. A properly rigged & loaded
> > Velocity, like most canards, is only stall proof
> > within the "normal" flight envelope.
> >
> > Pat
> >
> > --- Scott <scott@tnstaafl.net> wrote:
> >
> > >Well, this is completely contrary to all I have
> > >heard from people who fly these planes for a
> living.
> > >
> > >Are you passing on rumor of have you actually
> done
> > >it?
> >
> > >>But even the current design can be pushed into a
> > >>wing stall if you work at it.
> >
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