REFLECTOR:Carbon Beam Thickness- hard points

Alexander Balic reflector@tvbf.org
Thu, 29 May 2003 18:23:32 -0500


This is a multi-part message in MIME format.

------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C3260F.694A7C80
Content-Type: text/plain;
	charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Larry,
Could you give me the measurement from some obvious point on the aircraft to
the mounting points for the gas spring hard points - on the door, and on the
beam -it would be greatly appreciated!!!

Thank You
Alex
  -----Original Message-----
  From: reflector-admin@tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]On Behalf
Of lawrence epstein
  Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 8:27 AM
  To: reflector@tvbf.org
  Subject: RE: REFLECTOR:Carbon Beam Thickness- hard points


  My hard point(s) are all inside the beam & I use the newer system for the
gas spring (in the middle of the door).  No problem, but I did have to spend
some time trial fitting the beam/gas spring prior to mounting.

  Larry Epstein

  173 fge



  >From: "Alexander Balic"
  >Reply-To: reflector@tvbf.org
  >To:
  >Subject: RE: REFLECTOR:Carbon Beam Thickness- hard points
  >Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 22:38:09 -0500
  >
  >about that hard point- I spoke with Brendon at the factory about that,
  >because I spent a lot of time fabricating 2 that would fit nicely inside
the
  >beams, and I wanted the exact spot for placement, but he said that they
  >really need to go on the outside of the beam because when the door
closes,
  >the gas spring moves across the corner, and it needs to stick out away
from
  >the beam a bit to clear- if anyone has put them internally let me know,
  >because I have not quite done it yet, and would prefer (aesthetically) to
  >put them inside the beams.
  >
  >Alex
  >
  >-----Original Message-----
  >From: reflector-admin@tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]On
  >Behalf Of velocity xl
  >Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 8:38 PM
  >To: reflector@tvbf.org
  >Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Carbon Beam Thickness
  >
  >
  >I don't no if your plans are different than mine but you might want to
  >look at where the door strut attaches . The new style attaches higher on
  >the beam so you may want to but a hard point in that area also before
  >you attach it to the plane.
  >
  >Ron
  >----- Original Message -----
  >From: "Craig and/or Denise Woolston"
  >To: "reflector"
  >Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 10:51 AM
  >Subject: REFLECTOR:Carbon Beam Thickness
  >
  >
  > > John and I have rough fit the carbon beams into the airplane but there
are
  > > some healthy gaps (3/16" or less) in some areas. I can't find any
  >reference
  > > in the manual as to how thick (or high depending on your opinion of
what
  > > dimension I talking about) should be. The only reference is that a 2x4
  > > should fit inside the carbon beam for the seat belt upper attachment.
  >Which
  > > would say about 1.5" Do you just fill the gaps with structural
adhesive
  >or
  > > microglass or sand them down or what?
  > >
  > > Thanks,
  > >
  > > Craig
  > >
  > > !----------------------------!
  > > ! Craig Woolston !
  > > ! XL-FG in Palmdale, CA !
  > > ! cdwoolston@earthlink.net !
  > > !----------------------------!
  > >
  > > _______________________________________________
  > > To change your email address, visit
  >http://www.tvbf.org/mailman/listinfo/reflector
  > >
  > > Visit the gallery! tvbf:jamaicangoose
  > >
  > >
  >
  >_______________________________________________
  >To change your email address, visit
  >http://www.tvbf.org/mailman/listinfo/reflector
  >
  >Visit the gallery! tvbf:jamaicangoose
  >
  >
  >_______________________________________________
  >To change your email address, visit
http://www.tvbf.org/mailman/listinfo/reflector
  >
  >Visit the gallery! tvbf:jamaicangoose


----------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
  Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*.
_______________________________________________ To change your email
address, visit http://www.tvbf.org/mailman/listinfo/reflector Visit the
gallery! tvbf:jamaicangoose

------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C3260F.694A7C80
Content-Type: text/html;
	charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML><HEAD>
<META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Diso-8859-1">
<META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1170" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD>
<BODY>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D642242123-29052003><FONT face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff>Larry,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D642242123-29052003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff>Could you=20
give me the measurement from some obvious point on the aircraft to the =
mounting=20
points for the gas spring hard points - on the door, and on the =
beam&nbsp;-it=20
would be greatly appreciated!!!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D642242123-29052003><FONT face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D642242123-29052003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff>Thank=20
You</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D642242123-29052003><FONT face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff>Alex</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE>
  <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
  size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =
reflector-admin@tvbf.org=20
  [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>lawrence=20
  epstein<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, May 29, 2003 8:27 AM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
  reflector@tvbf.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: REFLECTOR:Carbon Beam =
Thickness-=20
  hard points<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P>My hard point(s) are all inside the beam &amp; I use the newer =
system for=20
  the gas spring (in the middle of the door).&nbsp; No problem, but I =
did have=20
  to spend some time trial fitting the beam/gas spring prior to =
mounting.</P>
  <P>Larry Epstein</P>
  <P>173 fge<BR><BR></P></DIV>
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;From: "Alexander Balic" <ALEX157@DIRECWAY.COM>
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;Reply-To: reflector@tvbf.org=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;To: <REFLECTOR@TVBF.ORG>
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: RE: REFLECTOR:Carbon Beam Thickness- hard =
points=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 22:38:09 -0500=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;about that hard point- I spoke with Brendon at the =
factory=20
  about that,=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;because I spent a lot of time fabricating 2 that would =
fit=20
  nicely inside the=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;beams, and I wanted the exact spot for placement, but =
he said=20
  that they=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;really need to go on the outside of the beam because =
when the=20
  door closes,=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;the gas spring moves across the corner, and it needs to =
stick=20
  out away from=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;the beam a bit to clear- if anyone has put them =
internally let=20
  me know,=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;because I have not quite done it yet, and would prefer=20
  (aesthetically) to=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;put them inside the beams.=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;Alex=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;-----Original Message-----=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;From: reflector-admin@tvbf.org=20
  [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]On=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;Behalf Of velocity xl=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 8:38 PM=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;To: reflector@tvbf.org=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:Carbon Beam Thickness=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;I don't no if your plans are different than mine but =
you might=20
  want to=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;look at where the door strut attaches . The new style =
attaches=20
  higher on=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;the beam so you may want to but a hard point in that =
area also=20
  before=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;you attach it to the plane.=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;Ron=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;----- Original Message -----=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;From: "Craig and/or Denise Woolston" =
<CDWOOLSTON@EARTHLINK.NET>
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;To: "reflector" <REFLECTOR@AWPI.COM>
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 10:51 AM=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: REFLECTOR:Carbon Beam Thickness=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; John and I have rough fit the carbon beams into =
the=20
  airplane but there are=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; some healthy gaps (3/16" or less) in some areas. =
I can't=20
  find any=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;reference=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; in the manual as to how thick (or high depending =
on your=20
  opinion of what=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; dimension I talking about) should be. The only =
reference=20
  is that a 2x4=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; should fit inside the carbon beam for the seat =
belt upper=20
  attachment.=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;Which=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; would say about 1.5" Do you just fill the gaps =
with=20
  structural adhesive=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;or=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; microglass or sand them down or what?=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Thanks,=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Craig=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; !----------------------------!=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; ! Craig Woolston !=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; ! XL-FG in Palmdale, CA !=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; ! cdwoolston@earthlink.net !=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; !----------------------------!=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; _______________________________________________=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; To change your email address, visit=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;http://www.tvbf.org/mailman/listinfo/reflector=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Visit the gallery! tvbf:jamaicangoose=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;_______________________________________________=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;To change your email address, visit=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;http://www.tvbf.org/mailman/listinfo/reflector=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;Visit the gallery! tvbf:jamaicangoose=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;_______________________________________________=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;To change your email address, visit=20
  http://www.tvbf.org/mailman/listinfo/reflector=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;Visit the gallery! tvbf:jamaicangoose=20
  <DIV></DIV></DIV><BR clear=3Dall>
  <HR>
  Add photos to your messages with <A=20
  href=3D"http://g.msn.com/8HMJENUS/2749??PS=3D">MSN 8. </A>Get 2 months =
FREE*.=20
  _______________________________________________ To change your email =
address,=20
  visit http://www.tvbf.org/mailman/listinfo/reflector Visit the =
gallery!=20
  tvbf:jamaicangoose</BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C3260F.694A7C80--