REFLECTOR:Rotary 20B dyno Test

Dennis Martin reflector@tvbf.org
Fri, 9 May 2003 13:32:37 -0600


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Rock on, rotory guy.  Very impressive results, and I'm envious of how 
silky smooth it's going to be when you get airborne.

Dennis Martin
Elite FG Chevy V-6

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>
>I've completed dynamometer testing of my 3-rotor rotary engine. 
> Overall; I'm very pleased.  Great performance from a normally 
>aspirated engine where the all-up installation weighs maybe 45 lbs 
>more than a 200 hp Lyc.  It should give me about 270 HP at my max 
>operating point of 2900 prop speed.  The following is a post to the 
>rotary engine list (including a response from a rotary Guru), and a 
>plot of sea level torque and HP.  More info will eventually be 
>available on my website.
>
>
>
>Al Gietzen
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>POWER AND TORQUE
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>  > Wide open throttle power and torque curves were run after adjusting
>
>  > the mixture correction table and the timing.  Mixture setting was
>
>  > approximately for maximum power.  Data was initially gathered up to
>
>  > about 6000 RPM, but looking at the data showed that the torque curve
>
>  > was still flat, and hp increasing, so subsequent runs were made to
>
>  > 7000 RPM. Still no break in the hp curve.  Given that the 2.17 redrive
>
>  > ratio limits engine RPM to about 6300 (Prop @ 2900), there was no
>
>  > point in pushing things further.
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>  > The torque curve is distinguished by it's flatness; varying only by 10
>
>  > ft-lbs from 210 ft-lbs at 4000 rpm to a peak of 220 ft-lbs at 5000 -
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>  > nearly constant from 4800 to 6800.  The 220 ft-lbs is not
>
>  > extraordinary, and could be improved by 9.7 compression rotors vs the
>
>  > stock 9.0 rotors that are in the engine.  Mazda's data indicates about
>
>  > a 4% increase in power with 9.7 vs 9.0 at 5000 rpm.  It may also
>
>  > improve some as the engine wears in - this is an engine with only a
>
>  > couple of hours of running since overhaul.
>
>
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>The 20B is going to make one hell of an aircraft engine.
>
>I can't wait to see one of these engines in an air race.
>
>The Lycoming weenies are going to wonder where the severe head wind 
>came from :) And this is only 87 HP per rotor at the benchmark RPM 
>of 6000.
>
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>Paul Lamar
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<div>Rock on, rotory guy.&nbsp; Very impressive results, and I'm
envious of how silky smooth it's going to be when you get
airborne.</div>
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<div>Dennis Martin</div>
<div>Elite FG Chevy V-6</div>
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color="#0000FF">&nbsp;</font><br>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="-1" color="#0000FF">I've
completed dynamometer testing of my 3-rotor rotary engine.
&nbsp;Overall; I'm very pleased.&nbsp; Great performance from a
normally aspirated engine where the all-up installation weighs maybe
45 lbs more than a 200 hp Lyc.&nbsp; It should give me about 270 HP at
my max operating point of 2900 prop speed. &nbsp;The following is a
post to the rotary engine list (including a response from a rotary
Guru), and a plot of sea level torque and HP. &nbsp;More info will
eventually be available on my website.</font><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font face="Verdana" size="-1"
color="#0000FF">&nbsp;</font><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font face="Verdana" size="-1"
color="#0000FF">Al Gietzen</font><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font face="Verdana" size="-1"
color="#0000FF">&nbsp;</font><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="-1">POWER AND
TORQUE</font><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="-1">&gt;</font><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="-1">&gt; Wide open throttle
power and torque curves were run after adjusting</font><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="-1">&gt; the mixture
correction table and the timing.&nbsp; Mixture setting was</font><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="-1">&gt; approximately for
maximum power.&nbsp; Data was initially gathered up to</font><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="-1">&gt; about 6000 RPM, but
looking at the data showed that the torque curve</font><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="-1">&gt; was still flat, and
hp increasing, so subsequent runs were made to</font><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="-1">&gt; 7000 RPM. Still no
break in the hp curve.&nbsp; Given that the 2.17 redrive</font><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="-1">&gt; ratio limits engine
RPM to about 6300 (Prop @ 2900), there was no</font><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="-1">&gt; point in pushing
things further.</font><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="-1">&gt;</font><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="-1">&gt; The torque curve is
distinguished by it's flatness; varying only by 10</font><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="-1">&gt; ft-lbs from 210
ft-lbs at 4000 rpm to a peak of 220 ft-lbs at 5000 -</font><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="-1">&gt; nearly constant from
4800 to 6800.&nbsp; The 220 ft-lbs is not</font><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="-1">&gt; extraordinary, and
could be improved by 9.7 compression rotors vs the</font><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="-1">&gt; stock 9.0 rotors
that are in the engine.&nbsp; Mazda's data indicates about</font><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="-1">&gt; a 4% increase in
power with 9.7 vs 9.0 at 5000 rpm.&nbsp; It may also</font><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="-1">&gt; improve some as the
engine wears in - this is an engine with only a</font><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="-1">&gt; couple of hours of
running since overhaul.</font><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="-1">&nbsp;</font><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="-1">The 20B is going to make
one hell of an aircraft engine.</font><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="-1">I can't wait to see one
of these engines in an air race.</font><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="-1">The Lycoming weenies are
going to wonder where the severe head wind came from :) And this is
only 87 HP per rotor at the benchmark RPM of 6000.</font><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="-1">&nbsp;</font><br>
</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><font size="-1">Paul Lamar</font><br>
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color="#0000FF">&nbsp;</font><br>
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