REFLECTOR:ELT
Ronnie Brown
reflector@tvbf.org
Mon, 5 May 2003 14:48:52 -0400
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FAR 91.205 is invoked through the operating limitations normally assigned to amateur built aircraft.
http://www.tisco.com/aviation/FAA/far-91/far-91s205.shtml
See 91.205(15) which refers to 91.207
http://www.tisco.com/aviation/FAA/far-91/far-91s207.shtml
Then http://www.avionicswest.com/articles/eltupdate.htm provides information about the newer ELT's.
So, unless your DAR/FSDO inspector fails to invoke 91.205 as part of your operating limitations, looks like
you will have to install a TSO-C91a compliant ELT.
Ronnie
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Martino
To: reflector@tvbf.org
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 12:26 PM
Subject: RE: REFLECTOR:ELT
Does that apply to Experimental? I can't find the regulation anywhere that requires a remote access. Even
looking at the ELTs themselves ... the ones without remote access says "TSO-C91a Approved" ... and they
mention something about satellite technology.
Do you know of any specifi wording and in what reg? FAR?
-----Original Message-----
From: Laurence Coen [mailto:lwcoen@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 9:52 AM
To: reflector@tvbf.org
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:ELT
A remote control head for an ELT is a requirement of TSO-C91a. All new manufacture aircraft must meet this
TSO requirement. The remote head must be accessible from the pilot position.
Larry Coen
SE-RG Franklin
----- Original Message -----
From: Donald Royer
To: reflector@tvbf.org
Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2003 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:ELT
Considering the very bad record of ELT's not being automatically triggered in accidents. I would think
that one would certainly want a remote switch on the panel for safety's sake whether it is required or not.
Don
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Martino
To: reflector@www.tvbf.org
Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2003 1:32 PM
Subject: REFLECTOR:ELT
I can't seem to get a consistent answer on experimentals and ELT requirements. Do we have to have a
panel annunciator and a remote switch on the panel? Or can we use a completely self contained unit and tuck
it behind the trim panel at the rear firewall?
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>FAR 91.205 is invoked through the operating =
limitations=20
normally assigned to amateur built aircraft.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><A=20
href=3D"http://www.tisco.com/aviation/FAA/far-91/far-91s205.shtml">http:/=
/www.tisco.com/aviation/FAA/far-91/far-91s205.shtml</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>See 91.205(15) which refers to 91.207</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2><A=20
href=3D"http://www.tisco.com/aviation/FAA/far-91/far-91s207.shtml">http:/=
/www.tisco.com/aviation/FAA/far-91/far-91s207.shtml</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Then <A=20
href=3D"http://www.avionicswest.com/articles/eltupdate.htm">http://www.av=
ionicswest.com/articles/eltupdate.htm</A> provides=20
information about the newer ELT's.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>So, unless your DAR/FSDO inspector fails to invoke =
91.205 as=20
part of your operating limitations, looks like you will have to install =
a=20
</FONT><FONT size=3D3>TSO-C91a compliant ELT.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Ronnie</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
title=3Dtmartino@troubleshooter.com =
href=3D"mailto:tmartino@troubleshooter.com">Tom=20
Martino</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dreflector@tvbf.org=20
href=3D"mailto:reflector@tvbf.org">reflector@tvbf.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, May 05, 2003 12:26 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> RE: REFLECTOR:ELT</DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D577412416-05052003>Does=20
that apply to Experimental? I can't find the regulation anywhere =
that=20
requires a remote access. Even looking at the ELTs themselves ... =
the ones=20
without remote access says "TSO-C91a Approved" ... and they mention =
something=20
about satellite technology.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D577412416-05052003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
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know of any specifi wording and in what reg? FAR? =20
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REFLECTOR:ELT<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>A remote control head for an ELT is a =
requirement=20
of TSO-C91a. All new manufacture aircraft must meet this TSO=20
requirement. The remote head must be accessible from the pilot=20
position.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Larry Coen</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>SE-RG Franklin</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=3Ddjroyer@earthlink.net =
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Royer</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, May 04, 2003 =
3:49=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: =
REFLECTOR:ELT</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Considering the very bad record of ELT's not =
being=20
automatically triggered in accidents. I would think that one would =
certainly=20
want a remote switch on the panel for safety's sake whether it is =
required=20
or not.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Don</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=3Dtmartino@troubleshooter.com=20
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href=3D"mailto:reflector@www.tvbf.org">reflector@www.tvbf.org</A> =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, May 04, 2003 =
1:32=20
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REFLECTOR:ELT</DIV>
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