REFLECTOR:Foil Tape Antennas

Chris Martin reflector@tvbf.org
Sun, 4 May 2003 22:44:27 -0700


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<DIV>Tom, The antenna for the VOR is the same antenna for the localizer and the glide slope.</DIV>
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<DIV>Thanks Chris Martin</DIV>
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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=tmartino@troubleshooter.com href="mailto:tmartino@troubleshooter.com">Tom Martino</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To: </B><A title=reflector@tvbf.org href="mailto:reflector@tvbf.org">reflector@tvbf.org</A></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> 5/4/2003 11:04:07 AM </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: REFLECTOR:Foil Tape Antennas</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I was told you could use the VOR antenna for the localizer and you didn’t need a separate antenna.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Andy Millin [mailto:amillin@net-link.net<SPAN class=GramE>] <BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent</SPAN></B></SPAN><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">:</SPAN></B> Sunday, May 04, 2003 7:45 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> reflector@tvbf.org<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: REFLECTOR<SPAN class=GramE>:Foil</SPAN> Tape Antennas</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Chris,</SPAN></FONT><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'MS Sans Serif'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">According the the plans, the VOR antennas are to be built into the bottom of the wing.&nbsp; Obviously, not a place where you could cover them with any type of foil.</SPAN></FONT><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'MS Sans Serif'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I did install my localizer antenna in the cabin floor.&nbsp; Thanks for the tip.</SPAN></FONT><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'MS Sans Serif'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Andy</SPAN></FONT><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'MS Sans Serif'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in; mso-margin-top-alt: 0in"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> reflector-admin@tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-admin@tvbf.org]<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Chris Martin<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Saturday, May 03, 2003 1:00 PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> reflector<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> REFLECTOR:Foil Tape Antennas</SPAN></FONT><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'MS Sans Serif'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'MS Sans Serif'">This note is for those of you that are using the foil tape antennas as designed by Jim Weir. This is the standard antenna system in the Velocities and I am sure all of you are using them in some form. I have always been unhappy with the performance of my VOR antennas mounted on my fuselage floor and finally wrote to Jim Weir to seek his advice. I wrote:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'MS Sans Serif'">"Jim, my question is this. The two VOR antennas in question are mounted on the floor of the fiberglass fuselage. Over the floor I have I have laid sound insulation and carpet. The sound insulation has a aluminum foil layer on each side. Is the foil the probable source of the antenna failure?</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">&nbsp;"</SPAN></FONT><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'MS Sans Serif'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Jim's response was "Without a doubt!"</SPAN></FONT><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'MS Sans Serif'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I wonder how many of you have made the same mistake I made in diligently building your antennas to Jim Weir's plans and then mistakenly covering them with a foil backed sound insulation. The foil backed sound insulation was the one recommended by Velocity when I installed my interiors in 2000.</SPAN></FONT><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'MS Sans Serif'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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