REFLECTOR:ELT

KeithHallsten reflector@tvbf.org
Sun, 4 May 2003 16:09:45 -0700


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The ACK unit is probably a good way to go for now, unless you really =
want an ELT that works; in that case you would have to spring $2500 or =
so for a 406 MHz unit.  The 121.5/243 MHz units will no longer be =
monitored after early 2009, so by then we'll all have to go to the 406 =
MHz units.  The hope is that the price on them will have dropped by =
then. =20

The only airplane crash located by a 121.5 MHz ELT signal in the 48 =
contiguous states was a C-150 that crashed into the Pacific off Punta =
Gorda, CA   There was one "save" in Hawaii, and several in Alaska, but =
the probability of a 121.5 MHz ELT providing for a prompt rescue after a =
crash is only marginally better than zero.  See  =
http://avweb.com/news/safety/184213-1.html

Keith
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Wayne Owens=20
  To: reflector@tvbf.org=20
  Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2003 3:44 PM
  Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:ELT


  One of the cheapest  conforming ELTs from ACK has a very simple to =
wire panel annunciator which will allow you to test and reset it from =
the driver's seat. It also has an indicator light to let you know it is =
activated.
  Wayne
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: KeithHallsten=20
    To: reflector@tvbf.org=20
    Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2003 6:06 PM
    Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:ELT


    Considering the horrendous record of ELT's being very nearly =
useless, I would think that you would want to spend as little on this =
device as possible!!  There is no requirement for a panel annunciator =
and switch.

    Keith

      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: Donald Royer=20
      To: reflector@tvbf.org=20
      Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2003 1:49 PM
      Subject: Re: REFLECTOR:ELT


      Considering the very bad record of ELT's not being automatically =
triggered in accidents. I would think that one would certainly want a =
remote switch on the panel for safety's sake whether it is required or =
not.

      Don
        ----- Original Message -----=20
        From: Tom Martino=20
        To: reflector@www.tvbf.org=20
        Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2003 1:32 PM
        Subject: REFLECTOR:ELT


        I can't seem to get a consistent answer on experimentals and ELT =
requirements.  Do we have to have a panel annunciator and a remote =
switch on the panel?  Or can we use a completely self contained unit and =
tuck it behind the trim panel at the rear firewall?=20

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The ACK unit is probably a good way to =
go for now,=20
unless you really want an ELT that works; in that case you would have to =
spring=20
$2500 or so for a 406 MHz unit.&nbsp; The 121.5/243 MHz units will no =
longer be=20
monitored after early 2009, so by then we'll all have to go to the 406 =
MHz=20
units.&nbsp; The hope is that the price on them will have dropped by =
then.&nbsp;=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The only airplane crash located by a =
121.5 MHz ELT=20
signal in the 48 contiguous states was a C-150 that crashed into the =
Pacific off=20
Punta Gorda, CA&nbsp;&nbsp; There was one "save" in Hawaii, and several =
in=20
Alaska, but the probability of a 121.5 MHz&nbsp;ELT providing for a =
prompt=20
rescue after a crash is only marginally better than zero.&nbsp;=20
See&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
href=3D"http://avweb.com/news/safety/184213-1.html">http://avweb.com/news=
/safety/184213-1.html</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Keith</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dwamowens@bellsouth.net =
href=3D"mailto:wamowens@bellsouth.net">Wayne=20
  Owens</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dreflector@tvbf.org=20
  href=3D"mailto:reflector@tvbf.org">reflector@tvbf.org</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, May 04, 2003 3:44 =
PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: =
REFLECTOR:ELT</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>One of the cheapest&nbsp; conforming =
ELTs from=20
  ACK has a very simple to wire panel annunciator which will allow you =
to test=20
  and reset it from the driver's seat. It also has an indicator light to =
let you=20
  know it is activated.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Wayne</FONT></DIV>
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    <DIV=20
    style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
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    <A title=3DKeithHallsten@quiknet.com=20
    href=3D"mailto:KeithHallsten@quiknet.com">KeithHallsten</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
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    href=3D"mailto:reflector@tvbf.org">reflector@tvbf.org</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, May 04, 2003 =
6:06=20
PM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: =
REFLECTOR:ELT</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Considering the horrendous record =
of ELT's=20
    being very nearly useless, I would think that you would want to =
spend as=20
    little on this device as possible!!&nbsp; There is no requirement =
for a=20
    panel annunciator and switch.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Keith</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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</DIV>
      <DIV=20
      style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
      <A title=3Ddjroyer@earthlink.net =
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      Royer</A> </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dreflector@tvbf.org=20
      href=3D"mailto:reflector@tvbf.org">reflector@tvbf.org</A> </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, May 04, 2003 =
1:49=20
      PM</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: =
REFLECTOR:ELT</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Considering the very bad record of ELT's not =
being=20
      automatically triggered in accidents. I would think that one would =

      certainly want a remote switch on the panel for safety's sake =
whether it=20
      is required or not.</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Don</FONT></DIV>
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        <DIV=20
        style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
        <A title=3Dtmartino@troubleshooter.com=20
        href=3D"mailto:tmartino@troubleshooter.com">Tom Martino</A> =
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        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
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        =
href=3D"mailto:reflector@www.tvbf.org">reflector@www.tvbf.org</A> </DIV>
        <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, May 04, =
2003 1:32=20
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REFLECTOR:ELT</DIV>
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completely self=20
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